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09-03-2021, 10:50 AM
#286
Re: WB Game Day V Melbourne - 2021 AAMI Community Series
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Although May and Lever are good, we still had 31 shots with 64 inside 50s.
Yep.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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09-03-2021, 10:53 AM
#287
Re: WB Game Day V Melbourne - 2021 AAMI Community Series
Anyone know how many shots on goal we had that were in play vs set shot?
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09-03-2021, 11:16 AM
#288
Re: WB Game Day V Melbourne - 2021 AAMI Community Series
Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
Are we honestly just better off putting Naughton down back? Solves our defensive woes but also doesn't make us that much worse up forward given he and Bruce just seem incapable of co-existing. Aside from a couple of games, he hasn't really dominated up forward. I know he's still developing his craft down there but with the addition of Bruce and English's forward development, perhaps Aaron is needed more down back right now.
Yes.
I've said it for a while but our back half is probably the worst in the league. Naughton is a better defender than he is forward, despite the allure of him playing as a dominant forward. The reality is that Aaron needs space to run and jump but that rarely happens these days. Body on body, May predictably destroyed him yesterday.
The balance of our side needs Naughton to play KPD if we want to contend. If we just want a good highlights package at the end of the year, keep Aaron forward.
Schache gets judged too harshly IMO and should be playing.
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09-03-2021, 11:19 AM
#289
Re: WB Game Day V Melbourne - 2021 AAMI Community Series
Originally Posted by
comrade
One of the big positives from yesterday was Lipinski. Looked quicker and stronger, and his kicking was a highlight. Reckon he has the potential to be a Mitch Duncan type for us, playing that roaming wing/half forward role. I have him locked into the round 1 side.
I was REALLY critical of Lipinski last year. I thought he was awful.
Yesterday he was really impressive. He worked hard both ways, put himself in the defensive hole a few times and then got on the end of a few forward of the ball. Looks fitter and stronger, he's always had good skills. The question is his contested game/defensive pressure and tackling, but the signs were much more positive yesterday.
Perhaps the early concussion in 2020 effected him, but he looks set for a good year.
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09-03-2021, 11:28 AM
#290
Re: WB Game Day V Melbourne - 2021 AAMI Community Series
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
Yes.
I've said it for a while but our back half is probably the worst in the league.
Is this based on observation or stats? Our defense is about mid range for goals against.
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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09-03-2021, 11:43 AM
#291
Re: WB Game Day V Melbourne - 2021 AAMI Community Series
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Is this based on observation or stats? Our defense is about mid range for goals against.
Goals against is too basic a metric. More important/relevant would be goals per inside 50, or 1 on 1 contests lost, amount of intercept marks taken inside 50. I don't have those available to me right now, but based on the eye test, we wouldn't be anyway near the top teams.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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09-03-2021, 12:46 PM
#292
Re: WB Game Day V Melbourne - 2021 AAMI Community Series
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Is this based on observation or stats? Our defense is about mid range for goals against.
Observation. Stats aren't a good indicator here, given a side might have an OK back half but poor midfield (ala Melbourne yesterday).
I can't think of too many defensive setups like ours who have an overabundance of half back flankers/defenders who really can't defend well.
Caleb is our best defender - not taking into account his attacking ability - which speaks volumes IMO.
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09-03-2021, 02:21 PM
#293
Re: WB Game Day V Melbourne - 2021 AAMI Community Series
Is it too early to begin fretting whether Naughts can avoid getting banged up so regularly?
But I digress ... selection experiments and pre-season rust aside, can someone who took in both contests against Hawthorn & Melbourne highlight areas of detectable improvement, without mentioning Stef Martin, on what we've trotted out over the last couple of seasons?
I have, and I can't.
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09-03-2021, 02:28 PM
#294
Re: WB Game Day V Melbourne - 2021 AAMI Community Series
Originally Posted by
Rocket Science
Is it too early to begin fretting whether Naughts can avoid getting banged up so regularly?
But I digress ... selection experiments and pre-season rust aside, can someone who took in both contests against Hawthorn & Melbourne highlight areas of detectable improvement, without mentioning Stef Martin, on what we've trotted out over the last couple of seasons?
I have, and I can't.
I'll don the cheerleader pom poms for a moment. I think two areas of incremental improvement will be from Bont rising even further this year (almost 900m gained yesterday suggests the extra space and time the new rules give you will suit him), Williams and Daniel from defensive 50 being even bigger weapons and our overall midfield dominance will be too much for about 8 sides so we should be able to bank 8 wins pretty comfortably. From there, I don't know.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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09-03-2021, 02:53 PM
#295
Re: WB Game Day V Melbourne - 2021 AAMI Community Series
Lipinski's game was terrific. Really robust attack on the footy and movement through traffic combined with genuinely hard running forward of the ball. Pretty complete performance from him.
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09-03-2021, 03:15 PM
#296
Re: WB Game Day V Melbourne - 2021 AAMI Community Series
Originally Posted by
SonofScray
Lipinski's game was terrific. Really robust attack on the footy and movement through traffic combined with genuinely hard running forward of the ball. Pretty complete performance from him.
Its only one performance but I thought Lipinski and Dale were both very good
Lipinski seems to have the tank, and is classy with the ball in hand, and yesterday there was a more consistent physicality and defensive intent about his game
Dale played a more solid game also - seemed to have better physical intent about the defensive stuff and his kicking and finishing were good
McNeil had some great moments and seems to get front and square relatively well, but Anthony Scott probably had the more consistent game but in a different role - it really looks to be a classy left peg on him, and he kicked nicely on his right at times also
Undermanned Melbourne but a solid step for our group and it wasnt like we didnt have a few out and a few injuries during the game
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09-03-2021, 03:43 PM
#297
Re: WB Game Day V Melbourne - 2021 AAMI Community Series
Really think the increase in handball receives that the stationary man on the mark rule affords will help Macrae and Treloar get involved in possession chains (not that they needed help doing so but think they will both be considerably more damaging).
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09-03-2021, 03:51 PM
#298
Re: WB Game Day V Melbourne - 2021 AAMI Community Series
Als Highlights - about 20 min of the good bits
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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09-03-2021, 04:45 PM
#299
Re: WB Game Day V Melbourne - 2021 AAMI Community Series
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Als Highlights - about 20 min of the good bits
Thanks for this. Some great foot skills on display. Caleb could put a ball on a 20cent bit.
You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus
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09-03-2021, 04:53 PM
#300
Re: WB Game Day V Melbourne - 2021 AAMI Community Series
The Smith to Lipinski pass was awesome, allowing Patrick to run onto the ball without breaking stride. Perfectly weighted.
The truth will set you free,
but first it will piss you off. ... Gloria Steinem.
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