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    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs North Melbourne 2021

    Out - Scott and Wallis
    In - Wood and Cavarra

    I don't think we'll drop Wallis but he's been awful in 3 games now.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs North Melbourne 2021

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs North Melbourne 2021

    McNeil had 14 pressure acts, that just doesn't happen in our forward line very much do I'd be very reluctant to drop him. Vandermeer who we all rightly love had 13.

    My only change would be JJ in for the Dazzler. JJ could take our kick ins.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs North Melbourne 2021

    Yeah McNeil had two unbelievable pieces of play that both should have resulted in two goals from situations we had no right to score from. If we didn’t drop him last week we won’t drop him this week.

    Scott for Wood is a no brainer, and I’d like to get JJ in too but don’t think there’s anyone that can make way.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs North Melbourne 2021

    I’m also all the way down to drop Wallis for Cavarra or West or literally anyone but we won’t so I’m not gonna harsh my buzz by wasting energy over it
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs North Melbourne 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Days View Post
    I’m also all the way down to drop Wallis for Cavarra or West or literally anyone but we won’t so I’m not gonna harsh my buzz by wasting energy over it
    Poor old Wallis. 15 possessions and 7 marks and we want to drop him.

    Last year Bruce had 5 games with 6 possessions (he had worse) and wasn’t dropped. The way he moves this year suggests that he was carrying an injury and should have been out for a significant rest.

    Wallis could probably contribute more goals if we gave him the ball in better positions. But his game wasn’t bad.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs North Melbourne 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Danjul View Post
    Poor old Wallis. 15 possessions and 7 marks and we want to drop him.

    Last year Bruce had 5 games with 6 possessions (he had worse) and wasn’t dropped. The way he moves this year suggests that he was carrying an injury and should have been out for a significant rest.

    Wallis could probably contribute more goals if we gave him the ball in better positions. But his game wasn’t bad.
    To be fair, most called for Bruce to be dropped throughout 2020.

    Wallis was rated the least effective player on the ground for a reason. He deserves more time but if he continues this form line, his spot in the team should be at risk.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs North Melbourne 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Danjul View Post
    Poor old Wallis. 15 possessions and 7 marks and we want to drop him.

    Last year Bruce had 5 games with 6 possessions (he had worse) and wasn’t dropped. The way he moves this year suggests that he was carrying an injury and should have been out for a significant rest.

    Wallis could probably contribute more goals if we gave him the ball in better positions. But his game wasn’t bad.
    Did you watch the game?

    Also Bruce is a total strawman argument and has nothing to do with what I said.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs North Melbourne 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Danjul View Post
    Poor old Wallis. 15 possessions and 7 marks and we want to drop him.

    Last year Bruce had 5 games with 6 possessions (he had worse) and wasn’t dropped. The way he moves this year suggests that he was carrying an injury and should have been out for a significant rest.

    Wallis could probably contribute more goals if we gave him the ball in better positions. But his game wasn’t bad.
    Wallis had what should be two very simple shots for a full time forward and should have had a third but midjudged the flight of an excellent kick to his advantage.

    Wallis needs to be efficient with his opportunities to have a spot in the side because he's not a manic pressure machine and he won't get many opportunities naturally with Bruce and Naughton as the key targets ahead of him.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs North Melbourne 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Days View Post
    Did you watch the game?

    Also Bruce is a total strawman argument and has nothing to do with what I said.
    I was there.Wallis did most of his work under pressure getting the ball. I thought he played better than Lipinski who contributed -1 goal.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs North Melbourne 2021

    I'm worried about Wally. I've been one of his biggest advocates and defenders, and was really happy for him last year. But am worried about how he is going.

    Not really sure about changes yet - but would be happy to see 1-2 changes to keep the team on edge. Possibly Wood or JJ for Scotty.

    The intercept handball McNeil got which set up the Vandermeer goal might be huge for his confidence.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs North Melbourne 2021

    For mine Johannisen isn't battling with Scott for a place in our team.

    Johannisen is battling with Bailey Williams, Bailey Dale and Caleb Daniel.

    Wood, Duryea and Scott are battling for the same spots.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs North Melbourne 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    For mine Johannisen isn't battling with Scott for a place in our team.

    Johannisen is battling with Bailey Williams, Bailey Dale and Caleb Daniel.

    Wood, Duryea and Scott are battling for the same spots.
    Yeah, the way I see it, we have 4 spots currently up for grabs:

    Small/mid forward - Wallis and McNeil are the incumbents but West and Cavarra are pushing
    Small/mid defender - Scott is hanging on by his finger nails but Wood is coming
    Key defender - Gardner has this on lock, Young and Cordy are a fair way back
    Running half back - Bailey Dale is keeping JJ at bay for now

    I expect one of West/Cavarra/Wood to come in this week.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs North Melbourne 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    For mine Johannisen isn't battling with Scott for a place in our team.

    Johannisen is battling with Bailey Williams, Bailey Dale and Caleb Daniel.

    Wood, Duryea and Scott are battling for the same spots.
    Yeah, the problem is Dale has taken his spot and has been way more reliable defensively and by foot. Expect Wood will come in for Scott. Scott hasn’t done much wrong but it’s a no brainer. Not sure who else is likely to make way. As mentioned Wallis has been poor but is unlikely to be dropped. We may rest 1 or 2 on the short turnaround, but can’t see where JJ fits currently.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs North Melbourne 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Danjul View Post
    Poor old Wallis. 15 possessions and 7 marks and we want to drop him.

    Last year Bruce had 5 games with 6 possessions (he had worse) and wasn’t dropped. The way he moves this year suggests that he was carrying an injury and should have been out for a significant rest.

    Wallis could probably contribute more goals if we gave him the ball in better positions. But his game wasn’t bad.
    I'm not sure those stats you've picked are great indicators of Wallis' performance yesterday.
    I, as we all do have great respect for his work but he needs to take those chances around goal.
    As mentioned he probably had 3 chances a forward should goal from :
    -The two shots from good marks and position
    -The dropped mark close to goal in the third (mcneil kick?)

    The Bruce argument to me isn't entirely logical. If you're arguing Bruce should have been dropped for bad performances, but then advocating for a player to remain in the side who was rated by champion data (stats) as being worse than non contributors then I'm not sure that stacks up.
    If you're arguing they made a mistake last year by not dropping Bruce, which I think has legs on reflection then surely we don't want to make the same mistakes again and need to reward performance.
    JJ seems to have shown there's a paradigm shift in this regard, and maybe we have reviewed and changed after valid criticism last season.
    (I don't get how he can be worse than JJ personally but it's the official stats the clubs use).

    Re Wally :
    Good part is he made good position for all of those chances.
    Bad part for him is these chances are so limited he simply must take them with the pressure coming from Cav and others good VFL performance.
    I think he will stay in the side but he's definitely fringe 22 at the moment.

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