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08-05-2021, 06:10 PM
#256
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8 Vs Carlton 2021
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
It's a good question to ask that if we break even in the midfield considering our shaky defence is that a loss?
The times we have lost the midfield contest have been in the middle, ie the centre clearances. Last week, Libba was smashing it in the middle, but then Nankervis got on top in the 3rd quarter, and fed Bolton, and Libba had one kick. We made some coaching errors in not changing it up in the middle. Bont said during the week, we will do some different things in the midfield rotations as we adjust to losing Dunks.
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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08-05-2021, 06:21 PM
#257
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8 Vs Carlton 2021
Originally Posted by
bornadog
I am not saying Gardner is the answer, I am just demonstrating you don't need to be elite to be good down back.
Darcy Moore was moved forward, and it didn't work, because he isn't good enough to be a forward, but he is a good backman, because it is an easier role to play.
Agree we need a tall backman to play the monster forwards, but it is not easy to find anyone.
Absolutely, it’s not that easy to find anyone, so until we do....
I know it’s hindsight, but would Melbourne be 7-0 if they had McDonald as their FB instead of May? McDonald goes ok, he’s an alright backman, a good decent player, but it just shows that if you have a VERY good backman like May, the rest of the defence stands up, Lever becomes a better role player. Imagine what Naughton would do to Keath’s role.
But you won’t have to worry coz the MC would never make that move.
I will never see #16 the same!!
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08-05-2021, 06:28 PM
#258
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8 Vs Carlton 2021
Lake was pretty damn great as a defender. Maybe you can get by with a Fletcher Roberts for a one off but most teams (and surely the ones successful for a period rather than as a one off) would have star key defenders. Or if not star in the good to very good range.
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08-05-2021, 06:52 PM
#259
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8 Vs Carlton 2021
Originally Posted by
bornadog
I am not saying Gardner is the answer, I am just demonstrating you don't need to be elite to be good down back.
Darcy Moore was moved forward, and it didn't work, because he isn't good enough to be a forward, but he is a good backman, because it is an easier role to play.
Agree we need a tall backman to play the monster forwards, but it is not easy to find anyone.
Is Keith/Gardner really THAT much worse than Hamling/Roberts?
It’d be amazing to have an elite KPD but equally, if we can get the guys we have up to their best, that may be good enough.
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08-05-2021, 07:06 PM
#260
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8 Vs Carlton 2021
Originally Posted by
MrMahatma
Is Keith/Gardner really THAT much worse than Hamling/Roberts?
It’d be amazing to have an elite KPD but equally, if we can get the guys we have up to their best, that may be good enough.
We also had Morris who was pretty versatile in that he was quick and could play talls and smalls.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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08-05-2021, 07:15 PM
#261
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8 Vs Carlton 2021
Originally Posted by
jeemak
We also had Morris who was pretty versatile in that he was quick and could play talls and smalls.
And Boyd & Roughead contested marking every long bomb out of defence, saving repeat entries into D50.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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08-05-2021, 07:21 PM
#262
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8 Vs Carlton 2021
Originally Posted by
MrMahatma
Is Keith/Gardner really THAT much worse than Hamling/Roberts?
It’d be amazing to have an elite KPD but equally, if we can get the guys we have up to their best, that may be good enough.
Originally Posted by
jeemak
We also had Morris who was pretty versatile in that he was quick and could play talls and smalls.
At this stage we have the best defence in the AFL as far as leaking goals (equal to melbourne), and we have kicked the most goals. I will enjoy it while we are in this position.
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Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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08-05-2021, 07:22 PM
#263
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8 Vs Carlton 2021
Sweet and Buku in
Schache, West and Martin out
Yikes.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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08-05-2021, 07:22 PM
#264
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8 Vs Carlton 2021
Three out but two in?
Sweet and Bruce to ruck?
Liam Jones also playing his 150th
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Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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08-05-2021, 07:23 PM
#265
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8 Vs Carlton 2021
Originally Posted by
bornadog
At this stage we have the best defence in the AFL as far as leaking goals (equal to melbourne), and we have kicked the most goals. I will enjoy it while we are in this position.
OK, we'll all stop discussing it and pretend everything's going to be fine when our numbers versus the ordinary teams balance out the numbers versus the good teams.........
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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08-05-2021, 07:25 PM
#266
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8 Vs Carlton 2021
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Three out but two in?
Sweet and Bruce to ruck?
Liam Jones also playing his 150th
I've got a bad feeling about this.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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08-05-2021, 07:26 PM
#267
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8 Vs Carlton 2021
Have can we fit all of Wood, Crozier, Duryea, Daniel, Dale, Keath, Cordy and Khamis into the same defence. The team is massively unbalanced.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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08-05-2021, 07:30 PM
#268
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8 Vs Carlton 2021
McNeil is listed as an in according to the Bullies FB notification.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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08-05-2021, 07:32 PM
#269
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8 Vs Carlton 2021
I don't get what we're trying to do here.....
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08-05-2021, 07:33 PM
#270
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 8 Vs Carlton 2021
Originally Posted by
comrade
Have can we fit all of Wood, Crozier, Duryea, Daniel, Dale, Keath, Cordy and Khamis into the same defence. The team is massively unbalanced.
Guess is Crozier plays forward. It’s a curious side without question.
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