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Shorter Games
Why are quite a few coaches pushing for shorter quarters?
I just watched Chris Fagan on AFL360 complaining about injuries building up because the 'games are too long' and therefore players are more fatigued. He believes the length of games has increased due to 'higher scoring'...when scores have barely gone up compared to 2019.
If injuries are the concern, wouldn't increasing rotations be the lever to pull rather than shortening quarters?
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From a viewership I think the games are too long.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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Originally Posted by
comrade
Why are quite a few coaches pushing for shorter quarters?
I just watched Chris Fagan on AFL360 complaining about injuries building up because the 'games are too long' and therefore players are more fatigued. He believes the length of games has increased due to 'higher scoring'...when scores have barely gone up compared to 2019.
If injuries are the concern, wouldn't increasing rotations be the lever to pull rather than shortening quarters?
I hope Fagan is asked that if quarters are reduced by 10-15%, does his wage or player wages get reduced?
Rotations or even interchange sizes seem like the place to start in a discussion about player welfare. Its a fair conversation to have, but let’s start at the start. Or is his call about trying to increase rotations or interchange really?
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Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
I hope Fagan is asked that if quarters are reduced by 10-15%, does his wage or player wages get reduced?
Rotations or even interchange sizes seem like the place to start in a discussion about player welfare. Its a fair conversation to have, but let’s start at the start. Or is his call about trying to increase rotations or interchange really?
More scoring leading to longer games leading to more injuries doesn't make sense anyway. The breaks after scores give players a chance to rest while the TV networks milk every second of advertising they can.
Less rotations is the issue.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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Originally Posted by
comrade
More scoring leading to longer games leading to more injuries doesn't make sense anyway. The breaks after scores give players a chance to rest while the TV networks milk every second of advertising they can.
Less rotations is the issue.
Rotations is fairer to all clubs. With the depth we currently have I’d take the bench out to 6 and a sub. That does little to North this year, or probably 5 years.
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Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Rotations is fairer to all clubs. With the depth we currently have I’d take the bench out to 6 and a sub. That does little to North this year, or probably 5 years.
On The Couch is also pushing for it.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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Originally Posted by
comrade
On The Couch is also pushing for it.
I didn’t see 360 but the Couch gave valid reasons why the game goes too long and what should be changed to reduce game time organically.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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This is what happens when the Dogs are on top of the ladder. The footy shows can’t spend 25 minutes an episode sucking off the Pies/Dons/Blues/Tigers so they have to make stories up to keep their moron fans engaged.
Wasn’t new footy with no moving on the mark and key forwards and blah blah blah the greatest thing of all time two weeks ago?
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Get rid of:
* score reviews - umpire's call
* ruck nominations
* don't stop clock at stoppages
* Forget 6.6.6 - they allow 30 seconds to get into position plus the umpires are looking around counting and wasting more time
* Stand on mark - wasting time to get player to stand
* Boundary throw in, stop waiting for rucks to set up - just throw the bloody thing in.
* shot at goal - reduce to 20 seconds - stop mucking around.
Easy plenty time saved.
I can't see the need to keep reducing rotations. make it open slather again.
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Jesus can they just not?
It's been a pretty entertaining season, and the long quarters are so incredibly better than the short ones last year. They love pulling out this argument, yet literally no one i know who is not in the media has ever raised it.
There are things that take too long, particularly the breaks after goals and score reviews. Shorten them (score reviews should be capped after 20 seconds, if it isn't conclusive after that bad luck), but the overall product is fine.
I should leave it alone but you're not right
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But wasn't the AFL that wants to increase fatigue in players to open up the play to increase the scoring hence why they dropped the rotations.
If they cut the length of the quarters then the AFL is back where they started and the merry-go round starts again.
If they just left the game as it was twenty years ago I wonder how it would be now.
If we go back through our posts hare on WOOF I'm sure one of our learned posters would have mentioned that there could be an increase for soft tissue injury with less rotations and player fatigue.
When will they ever learn..........NEVER
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Originally Posted by
Hotdog60
But wasn't the AFL that wants to increase fatigue in players to open up the play to increase the scoring hence why they dropped the rotations.
If they cut the length of the quarters then the AFL is back where they started and the merry-go round starts again.
If they just left the game as it was twenty years ago I wonder how it would be now.
If we go back through our posts hare on WOOF I'm sure one of our learned posters would have mentioned that there could be an increase for soft tissue injury with less rotations and player fatigue.
When will they ever learn..........NEVER
Not one change has enhanced our game in the past 20 years
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This just requires some minor tweaks. 34 minute quarters are too long but I given I'm watching more footy now than for 15 years or more so I think many of the games are worth watching.
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Given that scoring hasn't actually increased what exactly is causing it?
Qtr 3 in the lions game went for 35 minutes i believe yet only had 8 goals kicked.
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Originally Posted by
Topdog
Given that scoring hasn't actually increased what exactly is causing it?
Qtr 3 in the lions game went for 35 minutes i believe yet only had 8 goals kicked.
Yep, this article on AFL website confirms that scoring hasn't really increased at all so Fagan is way off base, suggesting it's the cause of longer games and more injuries.
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