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29-07-2021, 06:16 PM
#151
Re: Time to pull the Liam Jones move.
From the Western Bulldogs website.
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29-07-2021, 06:20 PM
#152
Re: Time to pull the Liam Jones move.
WOOF to the rescue. Again.
Next is lining up at CHB on the team sheet later tonight.
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29-07-2021, 07:21 PM
#153
Re: Time to pull the Liam Jones move.
I love how they've updated Josh's position, but they still have Sam Lloyd pictured at the start of the list without a number
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29-07-2021, 07:27 PM
#154
Re: Time to pull the Liam Jones move.
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
WOOF to the rescue. Again.
Next is lining up at CHB on the team sheet later tonight.
There it is:
CHB: Josh Schache
Great to read.
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29-07-2021, 08:56 PM
#155
Re: Time to pull the Liam Jones move.
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31-07-2021, 04:18 PM
#156
Re: Time to pull the Liam Jones move.
Game Two: Schache the KPD & 2nd Ruck
12 Disposals (4 Contested, plus 5 Intercept Possessions - Game High for KPPs for Both Sides)
11 Kicks
1 Handballs
58% Disposal Efficiency
8 Marks (1 Contested) (Game High, Both Sides)
4 Rebound 50’s
2 Clearances
2 Stoppage Clearances
1 Inside 50
1 Score Involvement
1 Partial Smoother (fingertips stopped Adelaide getting a shot on goal)
4 Pressure Acts
291m Metres Gained (Most of any KPP from either side)
100% Game Time Played (only player on ground to do so. Elite Endurance allows more interchange rotations for our mids)
56 AFL Fantasy Points
0 Frees For (outrageous one not paid to him)
1 Frees Against (not a Free in any reading of the rules)
4 Goals conceded to his opponent
Clearly in his second game he has some work to do, but it is his second game. The first to Fogarty he had position, but needed to hold the position and got moved. Something to work on. The second, it wasn’t cleared which it should’ve been easily and Himmelberg had the easy sit. The third is not on Josh, he got smashed in the head and illegally blocked and such Walker got the goal with no free paid. Walker got a late one holding the front position.
Schache should feel good in that he wracked up the most marks on the ground from either side, with five intercepts to boot (Game High for KPPs). Walker the second coming on Christ apparently should’ve been held to just the one goal in the last half when Schache had him. To keep him to one legit goal is a good effort in just your second game. He shouldn’t lose any confidence in this, it was going to happen at some point as it does all KPDs starting off. But the review and more time with Dale Morris this week gives him tangible things to improve, and things he has the power to improve.
After two games, it’s looking promising.
Last edited by bulldogtragic; 31-07-2021 at 06:46 PM.
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31-07-2021, 04:44 PM
#157
Re: Time to pull the Liam Jones move.
He also had the free paid against him for block/front on contact when he was trying to get back to contest. Thought it was a very harsh decision.
He did get outmarked/outpositioned a couple of times, but plenty to work with.
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31-07-2021, 04:46 PM
#158
Re: Time to pull the Liam Jones move.
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Joe
He also had the free paid against him for block/front on contact when he was trying to get back to contest. Thought it was a very harsh decision.
He did get outmarked/outpositioned a couple of times, but plenty to work with.
Was that paid against Josh? If so, no way that’s a free. I guessed it was the third man in.?.?
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31-07-2021, 04:47 PM
#159
Re: Time to pull the Liam Jones move.
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Was that paid against Josh? If so, no way that’s a free. I guessed it was the third man in.?.?
That is how I read it. Josh complained to the ump.
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31-07-2021, 04:54 PM
#160
Re: Time to pull the Liam Jones move.
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Joe
That is how I read it. Josh complained to the ump.
Then we are changing his name vie deed poll to Jake Lever. Then he won’t be subject to dumb frees and losing his skull and no free paid.
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31-07-2021, 06:24 PM
#161
Re: Time to pull the Liam Jones move.
He had a good, respectable game. Keep on persisting with him, see what he can do with Keath or Gardner in the team.
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31-07-2021, 06:35 PM
#162
Re: Time to pull the Liam Jones move.
Respectable game for a second gamer who was required to play on the next best forward considering we’re missing our best defender.
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01-08-2021, 09:18 PM
#163
Re: Time to pull the Liam Jones move.
Since the thread has it in the title, here’s Jones & Schache first two games of averages. Its something of a fair assessment of swinging an out of favour KPF into a KPD mid season, or at least provides a comparison and perhaps as indication of the move:
Jones —— Schache
Age 26 — Age 23 (When moved)
13 — Total Disposals — 14.5
4.5 — Contested Disp — 5.5
6.5 — Intercept Poss — 7
7 — Total Marks — 7
0.5 — Cont Marks — 1.5
2.5 — Tackles — 2
0.5 — Inside 50 — 0.5
0.0 — Clearances — 2
0.0 — Stoppage Clear — 2
3.5 — Rebound 50 — 4
1.5 —Frees Against — 0.5
7 — Pressure Acts — 9.5
214.5m — Metres Gained — 207.5m
0.0 — Ruck Contests — 9
0.0 — Hit Outs — 2
64.5 — AFL Fantasy Pts — 70.5
Carlton Won Both — Bulldogs Won Both
They’re tracking pretty close, with Schache marginally ahead. Jones was also the third string KPD, not the first plus Cordy. Both needed to develop their craft, Jones did while Schache can.
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01-08-2021, 10:44 PM
#164
Re: Time to pull the Liam Jones move.
At thius stage he holds his spot when Keath comes back, ahead of Cordy.
Cordy makes excellent position and busts his gut but his limitations may be glaring when Schache has more time at senior level
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02-08-2021, 10:06 AM
#165
Re: Time to pull the Liam Jones move.
From AFL.com
8. Schache can thrive in new role down back
Talented tall Josh Schache has proven over the last fortnight that he can succeed as a key defender and the born-again big man can play a pivotal role in helping the Bulldogs go all the way this season. Schache did a superb job matched up against Taylor Walker on Saturday and even found a way to pull down eight telling marks and make five crucial intercepts during the Dogs' win. With Alex Keath and Ryan Gardner currently out injured and unlikely to feature until the first week of the finals, Schache now gets the chance to cement his spot in the side and make it impossible for Luke Beveridge to drop him. - Jonathan Healy
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