Time to pull the Liam Jones move.

[comrade]

Lewy Young would have stopped some of them.

[bulldogtragic]

Lewy Young would have stopped some of them.

Should’ve played him with he or Josh as second ruck.

[Mantis]

Lewy Young would have stopped some of them.

His closing speed & aerial presence is something we seriously lacked in defence yesterday.

[Danjul]

Lewy Young would have stopped some of them.

I agree, but he is a natural backman (who specialises in being on the wrong side of the fence)

[comrade]

Should’ve played him with he or Josh as second ruck.

I knew we were *!*!*!*!ed when Bevo threw Naughton in the ruck. That was dire.

[bulldogtragic]

I knew we were *!*!*!*!ed when Bevo threw Naughton in the ruck. That was dire.

He looked genuinely confused by all aspects in those contests.

[Scraggers]

I must be in the minority but I can't see him as a defender. He makes ok position to intercept at times, but he's just too tame.

Agree ... He has the ability and the footy nous, but i want to see him hit a forward hard. I want to see him miss the ball and give the forwards ear a tickle (with his fist). I want him to develop a presence there. Hes not Liam Jones yet, but he can be.

Schache was absolutely horrible today. No mincing words, no considering his stat output, just woefully exposed against a bang-average key forward.

If we had a competent defender on Wright he doesn't touch it as he usually doesn't touch it and we win comfortably.

I don't think he was woeful, he did some good things around the ground and was a good rebound defender. But when he is in a one-on-one contest, he has to learn to punch from behind instead of trying to out-mark every time.

I think it is well worth persisting with the trial. Jones played almost a season in the twos learning the craft. Schache has had less than five matches.

[Happy Days]

Schache will never be the number one key defender and his best chance is playing off of guys like Waterman to intercept and use his skills. He can't be a Steve May but he could be a Jake Lever.

We're talking about getting a bath from Peter Wright here.

[soupman]

Schache was bad yesterday, really bad.

I would still persist with the experiment though. He is never gonna be a good lockdown guy, so Keath out really hurts him. We'll have to ride the ups and downs a bit until there is a big enough body of work to tell us if he could be in our plans there proper. I wouldn't even consider playing him forward in the absence of Bruce. He is not going to make it as an AFL forward and we already know that, lets stop trying it.

[Happy Days]

Schache was bad yesterday, really bad.

I would still persist with the experiment though. He is never gonna be a good lockdown guy, so Keath out really hurts him. We'll have to ride the ups and downs a bit until there is a big enough body of work to tell us if he could be in our plans there proper. I wouldn't even consider playing him forward in the absence of Bruce. He is not going to make it as an AFL forward and we already know that, lets stop trying it.

Yeah I'm with this. I've pretty consistently said the whole time that we need to see it with Keath and maybe even Gardner in the team. I'm not so pigheaded to say that there aren't encouraging signs but his one on one work was truly awful yesterday (and last week as well to be honest).

[comrade]

Yeah I'm with this. I've pretty consistently said the whole time that we need to see it with Keath and maybe even Gardner in the team. I'm not so pigheaded to say that there aren't encouraging signs but his one on one work was truly awful yesterday (and last week as well to be honest).

Yeah, it’s a fair assessment. He was clearly beaten a few times where a good 1 on 1 defender would easily kill it. 3 games in to the experiment with a bog average key defender beside him who couldn’t provide any coverage at all, shit like this will happen.

Give him a full pre season in the Lever role and judge him on 2022. I’d still play him ahead of Cordy when Keath returns though. Zaine couldn’t even keep Aaron Francis or Alex Waterman at bay.

[bulldogtragic]

Yeah, it’s a fair assessment. He was clearly beaten a few times where a good 1 on 1 defender would easily kill it. 3 games in to the experiment with a bog average key defender beside him who couldn’t provide any coverage at all, shit like this will happen.

Give him a full pre season in the Lever role and judge him on 2022. I’d still play him ahead of Cordy when Keath returns though. Zaine couldn’t even keep Aaron Francis or Jake Waterman at bay.

Yep. Cordy with all his experience gave up position and three goals to Holman in one quarter a few weeks ago. He bleeds them every week as much as Josh may this year. At least Josh gets involved in the game and offsets the losses with good hurt factor per his stats in the first three games. The sooner Keath, Schache & Gardner are the three KPDs the better. I’m not confident the MC agrees with me though.

[Happy Days]

Yeah, it’s a fair assessment. He was clearly beaten a few times where a good 1 on 1 defender would easily kill it. 3 games in to the experiment with a bog average key defender beside him who couldn’t provide any coverage at all, shit like this will happen.

Give him a full pre season in the Lever role and judge him on 2022. I’d still play him ahead of Cordy when Keath returns though. Zaine couldn’t even keep Aaron Francis or Alex Waterman at bay.

Cordy goes before Schache for sure.

As an aside, feel like we need to acknowledge Easton's game yesterday. Blanketed AMT, won a bit of the ball and even kicked a goal (?). I might need to go and amend my votes.

[EasternWest]

Cordy goes before Schache for sure.

As an aside, feel like we need to acknowledge Easton's game yesterday. Blanketed AMT, won a bit of the ball and even kicked a goal (?). I might need to go and amend my votes.

Deserves handsome points at least.

I know I've got a problem.

[1eyedog]

Schache will never be the number one key defender and his best chance is playing off of guys like Waterman to intercept and use his skills. He can't be a Steve May but he could be a Jake Lever.

We're talking about getting a bath from Peter Wright here.

Yeah he can't he was never a strong high marking forward and his inability to read the flight of the ball through the air is inferior to someone like Jones, who was an exceptional mark. Schache has never been this type of player. He's a lead up forward with a nice kick. Understanding forward craft probably helps him predict his opponents leading patterns but not reading the ball in the air well means he struggles with timing affecting his ability to jump and spoil. Added to this as others have alluded to he's not aggressive enough and rarely contacts the body in contests.