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28-06-2021, 01:42 PM
#511
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
No denying his arm hit Gaff, but it's incidental contact after a clean spoil. Play on. You guys are mad saying otherwise.
If Gaff hadn't been split open it wouldn't even be coming up in conversation.
Well not play on, should have been a free to Gaff
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Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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28-06-2021, 01:47 PM
#512
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Well not play on, should have been a free to Gaff
I think it should have been a free.
Then again, JJ is lucky not to have a broken jaw and that was play on too.
Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers
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28-06-2021, 02:24 PM
#513
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Well not play on, should have been a free to Gaff
And Duryea should have gotten a free kick when he was taken high in a marking contest which resulted in an Eagles goal.
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28-06-2021, 02:31 PM
#514
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021
Originally Posted by
Mofra
I think it should have been a free.
Then again, JJ is lucky not to have a broken jaw and that was play on too.
Originally Posted by
Testekill
And Duryea should have gotten a free kick when he was taken high in a marking contest which resulted in an Eagles goal.
Of course, but talking about the Caleb one
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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28-06-2021, 02:36 PM
#515
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Well not play on, should have been a free to Gaff
No way.
I can't believe you of all people are saying that. You were the chosen one.
"It's over. It's all over."
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28-06-2021, 02:38 PM
#516
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021
Originally Posted by
hujsh
Right? Surely defenders needs to still be able to defend even when out of position and Caleb's spoil was a clear and clean as it gets.
So is this unclear? Are we saying that even though it's in plain English what's written isn't actually true?
Should Callan Ward have been given a free for being knocked out by Cordy's knee? Eyes were on the ball, incidental high contact was made.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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28-06-2021, 02:39 PM
#517
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021
If Calleb was spoiling from behind, hit the ball but also hit Gaff’s head, would it be a free?
Of course. High contact.
Not sure what the debate is about.
The confusion comes with “front on contact” when you miss the ball. But if it’s high, it’s high.
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28-06-2021, 02:40 PM
#518
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021
Originally Posted by
jeemak
So is this unclear? Are we saying that even though it's in plain English what's written isn't actually true?
Should Callan Ward have been given a free for being knocked out by Cordy's knee? Eyes were on the ball, incidental high contact was made.
Define incidental contact.
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28-06-2021, 02:46 PM
#519
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
No way.
I can't believe you of all people are saying that. You were the chosen one.
Call it as I see it
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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28-06-2021, 02:50 PM
#520
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021
Originally Posted by
MrMahatma
Define incidental contact.
It's contact secondary to the legitimate act of pursuing the football solely.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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28-06-2021, 02:54 PM
#521
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021
Originally Posted by
jeemak
It's contact secondary to the legitimate act of pursuing the football solely.
This is also interesting and puts doubt in my head.
Spoiling the markSpoiling is the technique typically employed by opposition defenders to legally stop a player from catching the ball. Spoiling is performed by hand or fist (as a punching action) either before or shortly after the player has caught the ball in their hands.
The rules are quite strict on defensive spoiling methods. Players are not allowed to push other players out of marking contests or make forceful front on contact with an opponent in a marking contest, if they are not simultaneously attempting to mark or spoil the ball. Also, no high contact is allowed unless such contact is incidental to attempting to mark or spoil the ball.
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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28-06-2021, 02:58 PM
#522
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021
Originally Posted by
bornadog
This is also interesting and puts doubt in my head.
I'm glad that further explanations in plain English are causing you some doubts!
I'm just teasing BAD and it's vexed because we've all seen free kicks paid for high contact in a marking contest.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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28-06-2021, 02:58 PM
#523
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021
Originally Posted by
bornadog
This is also interesting and puts doubt in my head.
A momentous day of WOOF.
It's not ambiguous to me, but all that aside as I didn't know the word for word rule at the time, to the eye it definitely was play on and anyone who says otherwise is a mutinous scoundrel.
"It's over. It's all over."
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28-06-2021, 03:04 PM
#524
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021
Originally Posted by
jeemak
I'm glad that further explanations in plain English are causing you some doubts!
I'm just teasing BAD and it's vexed because we've all seen free kicks paid for high contact in a marking contest.
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
A momentous day of WOOF.
It's not ambiguous to me, but all that aside as I didn't know the word for word rule at the time, to the eye it definitely was play on and anyone who says otherwise is a mutinous scoundrel.
The rules are so grey no wonder supporters get confused
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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28-06-2021, 04:03 PM
#525
Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021
It should have been a free kick but who cares.
Did we really just have 20 more scoring shots than the Eagles in Perth?