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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 12 Vs Fremantle 2021
Originally Posted by
comrade
when you consider Bont, Libba and Macrae aren't exactly focused on what their direct opponent is doing either.
I would dispute that with the tackle numbers. Macrae had 9 tackles last week, Bont 8 and Libba 6
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 12 Vs Fremantle 2021
Originally Posted by
comrade
Baz looks good bursting out the front of the stoppage (see our first goal) but defensively he's the worst of our mids, which is a liability when you consider Bont, Libba and Macrae aren't exactly focused on what their direct opponent is doing either.
He’s a lot quicker running forward with the footy than he is running backwards to defend.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 12 Vs Fremantle 2021
Originally Posted by
bornadog
I would dispute that with the tackle numbers. Macrae had 9 tackles last week, Bont 8 and Libba 6
They tightened up after quarter time but when the game was on the line early, not enough respect was shown. As I said, Bazlenka is much worse than these 3 at the defensive side. Melbourne's inside mid group got 25 of 30 (including Gawn) coaches votes - their guys whipped ours.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 12 Vs Fremantle 2021
Originally Posted by
comrade
They tightened up after quarter time but when the game was on the line early, not enough respect was shown. As I said, Bazlenka is much worse than these 3 at the defensive side. Melbourne's inside mid group got 25 of 30 (including Gawn) coaches votes - their guys whipped ours.
It was won in the midfield for sure.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 12 Vs Fremantle 2021
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
It was won in the midfield for sure.
Yep. When they got it they burst through very easily.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 12 Vs Fremantle 2021
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
He went to 9 actually, although it was on Friday so technically you are correct.
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Damn read it wrong. Thought it was peculiar.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 12 Vs Fremantle 2021
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
It was won in the midfield for sure.
Certainly early on when the game was on the line, they were given way too much latitude. I recall one passage where Petracca was in acres of space in the corridor, that just can't happen. Then our turnovers piled up and it was a bridge too far. Twice our midfield has gone missing during important periods and twice we've been beaten.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 12 Vs Fremantle 2021
Originally Posted by
comrade
Certainly early on when the game was on the line, they were given way too much latitude. I recall one passage where Petracca was in acres of space in the corridor, that just can't happen. Then our turnovers piled up and it was a bridge too far. Twice our midfield has gone missing during important periods and twice we've been beaten.
The turnovers mainly came from the back six, and that killed us.
We were way up on clearances and stoppages, including in the first quarter.
If we talk midfield, and Libba yes, they won the battle there. Similar thing happened in the Richmond game, where Libba was absolutely on top in the first half, and then only had 1 disposal in the 3rd quarter.
We need a plan B when Libba is being beaten
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 12 Vs Fremantle 2021
Originally Posted by
bornadog
The turnovers mainly came from the back six, and that killed us.
We were way up on clearances and stoppages, including in the first quarter.
If we talk midfield, and Libba yes, they won the battle there. Similar thing happened in the Richmond game, where Libba was absolutely on top in the first half, and then only had 1 disposal in the 3rd quarter.
We need a plan B when Libba is being beaten
If you clamp Libba, you go a fair way to stopping us. Will be interesting to see how other clubs try to do it now it's been proven effective twice.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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01-06-2021, 01:57 PM
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 12 Vs Fremantle 2021
Originally Posted by
comrade
If you clamp Libba, you go a fair way to stopping us. Will be interesting to see how other clubs try to do it now it's been proven effective twice.
Especially with no Dunkley.
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01-06-2021, 02:06 PM
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 12 Vs Fremantle 2021
Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
Especially with no Dunkley.
He has been such a loss.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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01-06-2021, 02:11 PM
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 12 Vs Fremantle 2021
Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
Especially with no Dunkley.
God we miss him hey. Why was he the ruckman... Ever?
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01-06-2021, 02:13 PM
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 12 Vs Fremantle 2021
Originally Posted by
comrade
If you clamp Libba, you go a fair way to stopping us. Will be interesting to see how other clubs try to do it now it's been proven effective twice.
I think it goes back to the thread MJP started with the question do we go head to head or do we plan to stop them.
We went head to head.
Melbourne had the plan. We know which worked.
So they've played their hand or some of it, next time will be fascinating as we countered it well for three quarters.
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01-06-2021, 02:15 PM
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 12 Vs Fremantle 2021
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
I think it goes back to the thread MJP started with the question do we go head to head or do we plan to stop them.
We went head to head.
Melbourne had the plan. We know which worked.
So they've played their hand or some of it, next time will be fascinating as we countered it well for three quarters.
They revealed more than their hand. They showed us everything. Credit to them. They totally shut us down. But it's round 11 and it's now up to us to figure out how to respond. Melbourne have set a blueprint on how to stop us. But they also gave up their strategy for winning. Up to everyone else to break it down.
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01-06-2021, 03:04 PM
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 12 Vs Fremantle 2021
Originally Posted by
comrade
Baz looks good bursting out the front of the stoppage (see our first goal) but defensively he's the worst of our mids, which is a liability when you consider Bont, Libba and Macrae aren't exactly focused on what their direct opponent is doing either.
I hear you, until he gets stronger in the area, I would prefer him in his current role. The issue is we need someone to take up added load and I prefer him to Lip. Is there a run/tag type we could go with?