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Re: Nic Nat and JUH - If West Coast can manage it, why can't we??
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Halfway through the season and Josh has kicked 33 goals - I am more than happy with that.
Well, take away the 3 junk time goals against Melbourne. Take away the 10 against North.
I am just not sold. He has been better this year - 100% agree. I am really waiting for that game when he is playing against a quality opponent - and just delivers ANYWAY. Or that mark/goal when we are 100% desperate for it.
Am I saying he should be first out? Nope. But I am saying that if we decided the forward line moving forward would be English, Naughton, Jamarra instead of English, Naughton Bruce I wonder where would be at come GF day (should we get the opportunity to play that long) then I would kind of shrug my shoulders and say that on the body of work I have seen over 1.5 seasons, I understand where the MC is coming from.
What should I tell her? She's going to ask.
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Re: Nic Nat and JUH - If West Coast can manage it, why can't we??
What's the rush?
Bruce is a mature body and after 2021 is contracted for two more years. It seems weird we would throw JUH in early (he just doesn't look ready) only to have $600-700k worth of mature player sitting in the VFL.
If anything, JUH could play as that forth player/mid sizer (due to his speed) once his defensive ability is even passable for AFL level. I think he's a few weeks off that and given we are sitting 2nd on the ladder and should rightfully consider ourselves as contenders this year, JUH plays when he's ready.
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Re: Nic Nat and JUH - If West Coast can manage it, why can't we??
Originally Posted by
Mofra
What's the rush?
Bruce is a mature body and after 2021 is contracted for two more years. It seems weird we would throw JUH in early (he just doesn't look ready) only to have $600-700k worth of mature player sitting in the VFL.
If anything, JUH could play as that forth player/mid sizer (due to his speed) once his defensive ability is even passable for AFL level. I think he's a few weeks off that and given we are sitting 2nd on the ladder and should rightfully consider ourselves as contenders this year, JUH plays when he's ready.
Even if that is mid next year ? Surely by not playing, it’s hurting his confidence and putting MORE pressure on the kid ? How many #1 draft picks wouldn’t have played a game for 18 months of being drafted (uninjured) ?
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Re: Nic Nat and JUH - If West Coast can manage it, why can't we??
Originally Posted by
Mofra
What's the rush?
Bruce is a mature body and after 2021 is contracted for two more years. It seems weird we would throw JUH in early (he just doesn't look ready) only to have $600-700k worth of mature player sitting in the VFL.
I am not sure we should be worried about how much he is getting paid to play in what competition. The contract is signed and done - what happens next is up to him and being a 'mature body' really isn't doing it for me.
I just wonder when we are going to find out what we might have? We know what we have now - we know that vs Richmond and Melbourne when the heat came it wasn't enough. We have injury excuses to throw up against the wall - so, there's that I guess. But the players who are injured aren't coming back anytime soon. So why not find out what else we've got?
What should I tell her? She's going to ask.
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Re: Nic Nat and JUH - If West Coast can manage it, why can't we??
Originally Posted by
DOG GOD
Even if that is mid next year ? Surely by not playing, it’s hurting his confidence and putting MORE pressure on the kid ? How many #1 draft picks wouldn’t have played a game for 18 months of being drafted (uninjured) ?
Probably never. But they also get drafted into the bottom side.
It's a good discussion, from the defensive side of things I liked what he produced in the game he was concussed in the limited time he was on.
Couple of chase downs, one where he was injured. It's hard with the big 3 down there to add another but we need to get him in and have a look I think. Maybe manage Bruce for a game and play Marra.
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Re: Nic Nat and JUH - If West Coast can manage it, why can't we??
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Probably never. But they also get drafted into the bottom side.
It's a good discussion, from the defensive side of things I liked what he produced in the game he was concussed in the limited time he was on.
Couple of chase downs, one where he was injured. It's hard with the big 3 down there to add another but we need to get him in and have a look I think. Maybe manage Bruce for a game and play Marra.
I agree, and surely North is THAT game. I’d give him 2 games to get the taste. North and Sydney, both at marvel....hopefully.
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Re: Nic Nat and JUH - If West Coast can manage it, why can't we??
We need to get JUH in over the next 4 weeks to see if he can be a viable contributor in September.
Don’t mind the idea - but not across the detail of what it means for our rotations generally and if it increases the risk of other players getting injured / recovering slower.
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Re: Nic Nat and JUH - If West Coast can manage it, why can't we??
Originally Posted by
mjp
Well, take away the 3 junk time goals against Melbourne. Take away the 10 against North..
He kicked 1 goal in the 2nd quarter.
You can take away what you want, the fact remains he has kicked 33 and on target to kick more than 50 goals. No one has done that since 2015 at the Dogs.
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Re: Nic Nat and JUH - If West Coast can manage it, why can't we??
Jamarra on plane to Sydney
Edit - false alarm
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Re: Nic Nat and JUH - If West Coast can manage it, why can't we??
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Jamarra on plane to Sydney
For the experience I’d say.
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Re: Nic Nat and JUH - If West Coast can manage it, why can't we??
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Jamarra on plane to Sydney
I think if we can announce early he’s playing, if he is, that should inject a strong enthusiasm in the group and excitement around us that seemed missing on Friday night.
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Re: Nic Nat and JUH - If West Coast can manage it, why can't we??
Originally Posted by
DOG GOD
For the experience I’d say.
You know he has flown on planes before now?
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Re: Nic Nat and JUH - If West Coast can manage it, why can't we??
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Jamarra on plane to Sydney
Originally Posted by
DOG GOD
For the experience I’d say.
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
I think if we can announce early he’s playing, if he is, that should inject a strong enthusiasm in the group and excitement around us that seemed missing on Friday night.
Sorry could be false alarm
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Re: Nic Nat and JUH - If West Coast can manage it, why can't we??
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
You know he has flown on planes before now?
Umm yeah, I’m referring to the experience of flying to Perth with a squad. We don’t normally fly a week before the game. I hope he is there to play, but I’d be shocked if he does.
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Re: Nic Nat and JUH - If West Coast can manage it, why can't we??
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Sorry could be false alarm
Haha cmon Bornadog
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