Three things you've learned. Round seventeen 2021 v Swans of Sydney

[Twodogs]

So. Three things. Things you didn't know before. Things that you know now though. Write them down below.

[GVGjr]

Bump

[bulldogtragic]

1. If we don’t get the best ruck available this year then we are not serious

2. $600,000 a year for JJ to deliver this output is not something I want to repeat next season

3. When we are off, we are off.

4. I think Mitch Wallis should take any other clubs offer.

[DOG GOD]

1. We look cooked. I said it last week and I’ll say it again
2. JUH shouldn’t have played. Deer in headlights
3. Wallis and Hannan are now VFL players.
4. God we need dunks, Treloar, Martin and Naughton in our 22

[westbulldog]

1. We look cooked. I said it last week and I’ll say it again
2. JUH shouldn’t have played. Deer in headlights
3. Wallis and Hannan are now VFL players.
4. God we need dunks, Treloar, Martin and Naughton in our 22

Everyone has to start somewhere. Shane Warne took 1/150 off 45 overs in his first test in 1992.

[bulldogtragic]

Everyone has to start somewhere. Shane Warne took 1/150 off 45 overs in his first test in 1992.

Dead on. Bont debut was 14 touches in a loss to Carlton.

[comrade]

Dead on. Bont debut was 14 touches in a loss to Carlton.

The fact he was in the right spots on multiple occasions is a good sign. The hard hands was completely due to nerves which will ease off the next time he plays. One thing which was obvious to anyone who'd seen him play VFL is that he's not fit enough to contribute defensively in a zone. Was always trailing behind opponents and could rarely get separation.

Ah well, it went as I expected and he'll have learned a lot. I hope he gets another crack with Naughton beside him instead of Wallis or Hannan.

[bulldogtragic]

The fact he was in the right spots on multiple occasions is a good sign. The hard hands was completely due to nerves which will ease off the next time he plays. One thing which was obvious to anyone who'd seen him play VFL is that he's not fit enough to contribute defensively in a zone. Was always trailing behind opponents and could rarely get separation.

Ah well, it went as I expected and he'll have learned a lot. I hope he gets another crack with Naughton beside him instead of Wallis or Hannan.

Your last point is the key one. He should never have been KPF #2. Schache should’ve played and Jamarra should have had a lesser defender. Did Bevo think Longmire was shitting himself about Hannan and sending his second KPD to him?

[Mutz]

1. Another insipid performance today from the mids and forwards after a sluggish game last week = danger signs. Someone must get the chop to get the fear back into the team.

2. English (re-)learning how to be effective around the ground was great to see. Lots of good marks on the wing and within goal, although kicking 1.2 needs improvement.

3. Young can ruck (as I said last week) and kick goals - that should build his confidence further.

Extra. We smashed the free kick count (28-16) but many "balled" decisions not paid within 20m of our goal.

Bonus. It might be effective but Swans play an ugly brand of footy.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

1. Another insipid performance today from the mids and forwards after a sluggish game last week = danger signs. Someone must get the chop to get the fear back into the team.

2. English (re-)learning how to be effective around the ground was great to see. Lots of good marks on the wing and within goal, although kicking 1.2 needs improvement.

3. Young can ruck (as I said last week) and kick goals - that should build his confidence further.

Extra. We smashed the free kick count (28-16) but many "balled" decisions not paid within 20m of our goal.

Bonus. It might be effective but Swans play an ugly brand of footy.

Young did some ok things but I don’t like his weak attack at the ball. We can only carry one tall like that and it’s English. Don’t know how the biggest guys out there can be so soft in aerial contests. Had a gutful of Englishs’ weak efforts in the ruck. Young is an intercepting defender and not much more.

[Grantysghost]

Young did some ok things but I don’t like his weak attack at the ball. We can only carry one tall like that and it’s English. Don’t know how the biggest guys out there can be so soft in aerial contests. Had a gutful of Englishs’ weak efforts in the ruck. Young is an intercepting defender and not much more.

I'm not sold on Young. He really lacks intensity. Needs more time for sure but I can see why he's struggled to get a game.

[Bullies]

I'm not sold on Young. He really lacks intensity. Needs more time for sure but I can see why he's struggled to get a game.

Some of his efforts were putrid. That goal he got was not a free. He actually didn't want contact in that contest.

[Bullies]

1. Wallis is well and truly cooked at this level.
2. Look very flat. Have we gone through an increased training load to have us fit for finals. A lot of the top teams seem to go through a flat spot this time of year.
3. The current bottom 6 players we had in the team today won't take us far in the finals. Get our injured players back and it will make a difference.

[macca]

1. Our forward line is empty without Naughton. Does anyone know how to lead? Young is total useless in the forward line. He has no physical strength and gets too easily pushed out of the contest. Bruce was 2-1 today, so he had to bring the ball down to ground and in our fwd favour. Hannan rarely is in the contests, and gets pushed off the ball to easily. Our smalls were never in the right positions today. Our goal kicking is atrocious .... sigh...

2. Something was mentally off today. You have to be switched on at this level. Too many mistakes, fumbles. Even the small tackles which go against you, its twice the effort to win the ball back. Our young players in Gracia, Scott, Richards really had to step up today when the senior players were having an off day. Today was a good example of our gap between good and bad efforts showed.

3. Young needs to work out what his weaknesses are. Either work them out ( i.e just don't fall into those traps), or play just to his strengths. Don't throw up your arms and remonstrate when blocked by the defender. Work out a way to push around him. I want him to put on 5 KG of muscle over the season and be as strongest player on the ground. As he is no way a leading forward, or run all day type of KPD. His strengths are his mobility , marking ability ( or read of the flight of the ball) and pinch Ruck are important to the team to cover the ground.

[merantau]

Tim English will only ever be a pinch hit ruck. He can be good up forward.

Our goal kicking has not got better.

We never looked like it today. If Bont hadn't spent most of his time in the back half we would have been killed.