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    Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 22, 2021 vs Hawthorn

    This is the round 22, 2021 edition of the weekly Bankers and Anchors thread. Once the game against Hawthorn is concluded post your nominations for:

    The Bankers = 3 guys/aspects of the game that we banked on to do the right thing during the game
    The Anchors = 3 guys/aspects of the game that weighed us down by their errors or poor play

    Please limit it to no more than three of each player or aspect of the game, but feel free to make honourable/dishonourable mentions. As usual try to make it constructive criticism.

    Try and restrict it to individual players rather than aspects of the overall match - I will allow more freedom now as the thread seems to be going down more of the aspects of the game path so you can have 3 for each made up of aspects of the game and individual players.

    The thread is named in honour of a popular WOOF Contributor, The Banker, who passed away on 22/04/2012 after a six month battle with cancer.

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    Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 22, 2021 vs Hawthorn

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    Cody. At least he tried.


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    Pretty much most. JJ selfish. Hannan fumbles. Mids don’t defend. Smith isn’t off limits to trade. Hunter butchering everything in the first half. Wood not taking a tackle over the line and coughing one up. Etc. etc.
    2021 - what a ducking waste of time and effort
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    Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 22, 2021 vs Hawthorn

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    I didn't see the whole game. Libba and Bont tried their guts out. Cody chased and chased. Cordy saved one certain goal.
    Bailey Dale tried to create.

    Anchors

    JJ is horribly out of form
    Hannan is not giving anything at the moment.
    Tim English is a pinch hit ruck
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    Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 22, 2021 vs Hawthorn

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    * Cody Weightman's two goals
    * Young's big mark over Ceglar
    * Naughton's marking when he looks like he won't get there.

    Anchors

    * Centre clearances - got killed
    * Disposal Efficiency, just didn't adapt to conditions
    * Disappointing to lose when we had top 4 in the bag
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    Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 22, 2021 vs Hawthorn

    Bankers:

    Dale across half back. At least tried to make things happen.
    Libba - Most tackles, plenty of footy.
    Macrae - Second most tackles, most footy - turns up every week.

    Anchors:

    Tim English - shameful performance in the ruck. I don't understand how he is so brave in the air (marking) and lacks that completely in the ruck. If the coaches didn't challenge his character strongly during and after the game, then I don't know what we're doing with him. Was his worst effort since he cost us a final last year.

    Lewis Young - I have no interest in him as a player. If you can't provide a consistently strong contest, then you don't have a place.

    JJ - I've been a defender of his because of the attributes he brings that we are not in over supply of. But the missed tackles and at times underwhelming efforts in contested situations deflates us.


    Banker/Anchors:

    Weightman & VDM ; I love the endeavour - but you've got to be smart about it, and they gave up sloppy free kicks that were really costly. When you work that hard to score and give away free kicks inside 50 - its a real downer.

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    Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 22, 2021 vs Hawthorn

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozza View Post
    Bankers:

    Dale across half back. At least tried to make things happen.
    Libba - Most tackles, plenty of footy.
    Macrae - Second most tackles, most footy - turns up every week.

    Anchors:

    Tim English - shameful performance in the ruck. I don't understand how he is so brave in the air (marking) and lacks that completely in the ruck. If the coaches didn't challenge his character strongly during and after the game, then I don't know what we're doing with him. Was his worst effort since he cost us a final last year.

    Lewis Young - I have no interest in him as a player. If you can't provide a consistently strong contest, then you don't have a place.

    JJ - I've been a defender of his because of the attributes he brings that we are not in over supply of. But the missed tackles and at times underwhelming efforts in contested situations deflates us.


    Banker/Anchors:

    Weightman & VDM ; I love the endeavour - but you've got to be smart about it, and they gave up sloppy free kicks that were really costly. When you work that hard to score and give away free kicks inside 50 - its a real downer.
    Could you actually pick an easier target?

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    Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 22, 2021 vs Hawthorn

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    Could you actually pick an easier target?
    Have I ever "targeted" him before?

    He's in his 5th year at the footy club. You can pretend he's something he isn't all you want - but what I'm seeing is why he's only played 21 games in that time. You obviously see something different in his game, and I hope you're right.

    My original view was that Sweet should have played, not Young. I'm not a huge Sweet fan, but at least you know what you're going to get in the ruck contests. But like everyone else, Young's flexibility seduced in me the idea that it may work well having him come in.

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    Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 22, 2021 vs Hawthorn

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozza View Post
    Have I ever "targeted" him before?

    He's in his 5th year at the footy club. You can pretend he's something he isn't all you want - but what I'm seeing is why he's only played 21 games in that time. You obviously see something different in his game, and I hope you're right.

    My original view was that Sweet should have played, not Young. I'm not a huge Sweet fan, but at least you know what you're going to get in the ruck contests. But like everyone else, Young's flexibility seduced in me the idea that it may work well having him come in.
    I tend to agree with you, however, do you think Young is playing out of position and he should be tried in one role instead of ruck, forward, back?
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    Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 22, 2021 vs Hawthorn

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozza View Post
    Have I ever "targeted" him before?

    He's in his 5th year at the footy club. You can pretend he's something he isn't all you want - but what I'm seeing is why he's only played 21 games in that time. You obviously see something different in his game, and I hope you're right.

    My original view was that Sweet should have played, not Young. I'm not a huge Sweet fan, but at least you know what you're going to get in the ruck contests. But like everyone else, Young's flexibility seduced in me the idea that it may work well having him come in.
    I understand where he fit's into our plans given the MC don't pick him and when they do he isn't given the same luxuries as others given he's you-yo'ed relentlessly, but he was the least of our troubles.

    The lack of intent by our midfielders to defend was/is disgusting... all of them. Their complete inability to read the situation and batten down the hatches is *!*!*!*!ing embarrassing. It's all see ball, get ball and until the penny drops that they need to limit the opposition when we aren't playing well we are pushing shit up hill.

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    Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 22, 2021 vs Hawthorn

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozza View Post
    Have I ever "targeted" him before?

    He's in his 5th year at the footy club. You can pretend he's something he isn't all you want - but what I'm seeing is why he's only played 21 games in that time. You obviously see something different in his game, and I hope you're right.

    My original view was that Sweet should have played, not Young. I'm not a huge Sweet fan, but at least you know what you're going to get in the ruck contests. But like everyone else, Young's flexibility seduced in me the idea that it may work well having him come in.
    Young had 15 possessions (4 marks).

    Keath had 6 possessions (2 marks). I was amazed by how often and easily Keath was brushed aside and outmarked.
    Naughton had 8 possessions (in a forward line that scored 1 behind in the last 50 minutes of the game).
    Dunkley and English combined kicked the ball 10 times. No wonder the ball didnÂ’t go into our 50 often enough.

    And you noticed Young as a reason we lost? If they gave him a position and put 20 games into him he would be one of our best.

    And I agree with you that Sweet should have played, but he should have played in the previous game too.

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    Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 22, 2021 vs Hawthorn

    Massive anchor to our constant fumbling. I’ve never seen it as bad as the weekend and it just killed any ability to break from a contest and find space. JJ, Baz and Hannan stood out but it was rife across the group outside of a few. On the flip side, Hawthorn were clean and composed.
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    Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 22, 2021 vs Hawthorn

    By far the biggest anchor for me was our inability to win centre bounces, and (more than that) the lack of someone willing to address the problem ? Why did not the players adapt without instruction, or why did not the coach/coaches organise a counter strategy ? What do all those people on lap tops during the match contribute ? Are they just playing the latest computer game ?
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    Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 22, 2021 vs Hawthorn

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanette54 View Post
    By far the biggest anchor for me was our inability to win centre bounces, and (more than that) the lack of someone willing to address the problem ? Why did not the players adapt without instruction, or why did not the coach/coaches organise a counter strategy ? What do all those people on lap tops during the match contribute ? Are they just playing the latest computer game ?
    When we can compete in the ruck the ball drops closer to the contest and Libba is the best phone box player in the competition.
    When we get dominated in the ruck the opposition ruckman can clear the ball a little which takes away Libba's advantage. Teams have worked out they can't let our mids shark the ball.
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