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07-09-2021, 12:10 PM
#151
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 3
If Schache/English is told to take the F50 ruck contests (hoping just to halve them), leaving Stef with 60% game time on CBAs, wings & D50 ruck contests. How much would that save Stef in terms on running? A material difference?
Can he rest forward, or is that an invitation to run off him?
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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07-09-2021, 12:42 PM
#152
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 3
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
If Schache/English is told to take the F50 ruck contests (hoping just to halve them), leaving Stef with 60% game time on CBAs, wings & D50 ruck contests. How much would that save Stef in terms on running? A material difference?
Can he rest forward, or is that an invitation to run off him?
He can’t rest forward in my view and we will likely prefer to hold our forwards for any ruck contests a kick plus away from goal. If you use a forward to ruck you are inviting a spare behind the footy.
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07-09-2021, 01:09 PM
#153
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 3
Originally Posted by
jeemak
I'm thinking we need to go all out and play Stef if he's fit. We can worry about what we'll do in the Grand Final if and when we get there. After all, there's a two week recovery window on the table so he could back it up.
Preliminary finals are ridiculously hard to win, you can't leave anything on the table.
They are ridiculously hard to win.
Carrying two players who won't be 90% fit in Martin and Bont will be a massive massive risk.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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07-09-2021, 01:23 PM
#154
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 3
Originally Posted by
dog town
He can’t rest forward in my view and we will likely prefer to hold our forwards for any ruck contests a kick plus away from goal. If you use a forward to ruck you are inviting a spare behind the footy.
Originally Posted by
azabob
They are ridiculously hard to win.
Carrying two players who won't be 90% fit in Martin and Bont will be a massive massive risk.
Since Round 7, Martin has played 1.5 quarters of AFL footy. It is a hell of a gamble to play him. If we can’t manage his workload then it’s hard to see it happening. Young ain’t a ruck, but if can go into defence if needed. I wish there was an easier answer, but stick with The Hybrids and hope for the best.
Win or lose, younger fit First Rucks looking to play in finals should be seeing us as a great opportunity.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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07-09-2021, 01:24 PM
#155
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 3
Originally Posted by
azabob
They are ridiculously hard to win.
Carrying two players who won't be 90% fit in Martin and Bont will be a massive massive risk.
I'd be surprised if we're not already carrying blokes who are only around 90%, same as the other teams.
The adage that you don't play injured players in finals is bullshit. You just don't tell anyone about it until after they're done with.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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07-09-2021, 01:26 PM
#156
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 3
Originally Posted by
jeemak
I'd be surprised if we're not already carrying blokes who are only around 90%, same as the other teams.
The adage that you don't play injured players in finals is bullshit. You just don't tell anyone about it until after they're done with.
What about playing with a broken back?
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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07-09-2021, 01:32 PM
#157
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 3
Originally Posted by
azabob
They are ridiculously hard to win.
Carrying two players who won't be 90% fit in Martin and Bont will be a massive massive risk.
How fit do you think Daniel was on Saturday night?
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07-09-2021, 01:33 PM
#158
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 3
Is Will Minson still on the list?
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07-09-2021, 01:59 PM
#159
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 3
Originally Posted by
dog town
He can’t rest forward in my view and we will likely prefer to hold our forwards for any ruck contests a kick plus away from goal. If you use a forward to ruck you are inviting a spare behind the footy.
Yeah he if he plays, he rests on the bench.
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07-09-2021, 02:00 PM
#160
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 3
Thing with Lewy this week, if we can go a bit more defensive with a narrow ground/Port being tall up forward. Lewy can go down back as an extra tall when not in the ruck.
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07-09-2021, 02:07 PM
#161
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 3
Originally Posted by
Rocco Jones
Thing with Lewy this week, if we can go a bit more defensive with a narrow ground/Port being tall up forward. Lewy can go down back as an extra tall when not in the ruck.
Yeah, we need some way to strengthen our intercept game it will be vital against the Port smalls.
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07-09-2021, 02:09 PM
#162
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 3
Originally Posted by
kruder
Yeah, we need some way to strengthen our intercept game it will be vital against the Port smalls.
I am concerned about Wood finding a role vs Port. They have a lot of guys who are really good at either doing tall or small type things.
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07-09-2021, 02:15 PM
#163
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 3
Kane Cornes tutt-tutting Trelor's body language. But actually he has a point with the last chase....
You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus
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07-09-2021, 02:19 PM
#164
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 3
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Since Round 7, Martin has played 1.5 quarters of AFL footy. It is a hell of a gamble to play him. If we can’t manage his workload then it’s hard to see it happening. Young ain’t a ruck, but if can go into defence if needed. I wish there was an easier answer, but stick with The Hybrids and hope for the best.
Win or lose, younger fit First Rucks looking to play in finals should be seeing us as a great opportunity.
And he wasn’t that good when he played.
All he did was prove our ruck understanding had been diabolical for years.
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07-09-2021, 02:25 PM
#165
Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 3
Originally Posted by
Mantis
How fit do you think Daniel was on Saturday night?
93.2%.
In all seriousness can we compare Daniel and Martin?
Martin plays a physical position and is required to cover ground and has been underdone all season by the first few rounds.
If Bont wasn't under an injury cloud I would risk it for the biscuit and play Martin.
More of an In Bruges guy?