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    That is exactly what we will do I think, one of them will generally play high anyway. Strength in numbers when they do get deep because it will be a slow play.
    Yep.. having watched a fair bit of our Rd19 game last night our match-ups were determined by position on the ground rather than the person, but we will have to roll the dice a bit and our defenders will need to be supported by our mids/ forwards and each other.

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    Mick McGuane’s 2021 AFL Grand Final Preview: What to look for, who will win and why

    The big dance is almost here and it shapes as an intriguing contest between two sides who go about things a little differently.

    Collingwood 1990 premiership player Mick McGuane breaks down the Grand Final with this mega preview.

    MELBOURNE

    WHAT TO EXPECT

    The Demons to back their brand, which has got them this far. They are a tough and uncompromising side that gets the fire started at the coalface with Max Gawn, Clayton Oliver, Christian Petracca, Jack Viney and James Harmes. The start of this Grand Final will be brutal in a physical sense. Melbourne will try and create a strong territory game. They will look to get the game on their terms on the back of their clearance-winning ability, a high kick-to-handball ratio and ruthless forward half pressure that has been a feature of their finals series so far. Effective tackling, which is a choice, will also be front of mind for Melbourne players, who will be out to assault the Western Bulldogs ball carriers in a manic and physical way. History has no relevance with this group — it’s all about them creating their own.

    THE KEY

    Stifle the Bulldogs’ strength at stoppages. Win the contested ball and clearances but, most importantly, post-clearance contested ball wins must be a priority. The Demons need to “hunt with grunt” and they have players who do that well in Oliver, Petracca and Viney. But keeping good shape and width off the ball is equally important. It adds vital defensive layers off the contest which must exist against the Bulldogs so they just can’t flick the ball around to get their offensive ball movement into gear. That didn’t happen when these sides last met in Round 19, with the Bulldogs scoring 46 points from clearances — their fifth-most of the season. It’s not only about winning stoppages, but how you defend them as well. The Demons must get the right balance of when to attack and when to defend. Always rolling the dice could lead to disastrous consequences.

    THE CHALLENGE

    Can the key forwards stand up? You’ve got Tom McDonald, who was almost traded last year, and Ben Brown, who wasn’t given a contract at North Melbourne before finding a new home. Here’s a chance for both of them to solidify the reasons why they are on Melbourne’s list. In Grand Final’s, key forwards simply must stand up and impose themselves in the air as well as hit the scoreboard — think Jack Riewoldt, Tom Lynch, Tom Boyd and Josh Kennedy. When these sides last met in Round 19, Melbourne’s goals per inside-50 percentage was only 17.6 per cent which was their fourth-lowest efficiency of the year. They can’t afford a return like that again.

    THE CONCERN

    The finals preparation. As good as the Demons have been all year, the league’s pre-Grand Final bye adds an element of concern. Entering the Grand Final, the Demons would have only played one game in 28 days. That’s not ideal, and most players who have been in this situation before would say they would prefer continuity to ensure they are match-hardened and in a routine. The questions will be, will it help or hinder the team’s performance? How have the players dealt with it? And have too many players already played the game in their head? The Demons won’t want to be five per cent off. The other concern is Steven May’s hamstring. If it pops early in the game, Melbourne is in strife.

    THE THEME

    Stay the course and believe in what has got you here. Melbourne has had a team-first attitude this year and I’ve always been a believer that individuals can contribute but teams win Grand Finals. Players like Angus Brayshaw, Ed Langdon, Harrison Petty, Alex Neal-Bullen, James Jordan and James Harmes all understand the significant roles they play. When perfected well the team benefits. The Demons players will also need to be flexible in-game defensively and potentially sacrifice their own games for the benefit of the team. Structurally, an “in game” adjustment might be required, especially if Bailey Smith gets off the chain.

    THE STAR

    Christian Petracca. He continues to thrive and has matured into an elite footballer on the back of commitment to his trade and improved fitness levels. Petracca is clearly one of the competition’s game-breakers and we’ve witnessed with Dustin Martin what a match winner can do in finals. Much like Martin, Petracca is a centre-forward player who has logged only seven per cent of his possessions this year in the defensive 50 and he possesses similar breakaway power from stoppages which is so dangerous. Petracca has kicked 27.18 this year — which is great conversion overall — but in finals he has managed only 2.2 against Brisbane and 1.2 against Geelong. Take his chances in front of goal this week and he could join Martin as a Norm Smith Medal winner.

    X-FACTOR

    Bailey Fritsch. The 188cm forward might be a left-field choice, but I’ve got question marks over whether the small-to-medium size Bulldogs defenders can keep the small-to-medium Melbourne forwards quiet. In his two games against the Bulldogs this year, Fritsch has kicked a combined five goals out of a team total of 22 goals. He’s an unsung hero who gets the job done with no fuss. He is the type of player who can have five kicks but kick four goals given his lethal kicking leg — meaning he could help Melbourne win the game.

    IF I WAS MELBOURNE …

    Steven May picks up Aaron Naughton. Harrison Petty goes to Tim English. A combination of Trent Rivers and Michael Hibberd goes to Cody Weightman. Then Jake Lever takes his pick of who he needs to play on for his creative intercepting game to thrive. Keeping Bailey Smith quiet will be a huge consideration given his out-of-this-world finals series. Smith is the only player since 1999 to average at least 20 disposals, 500m gained, five inside-50s and 2.5 goals a game in a finals series. You can ill-afford to let him roam free and must ensure his disposals are under pressure. I’d start James Harmes as a high half-forward but then have him roll up to engage Tom Liberatore in general play, allowing Christian Petracca the creative license to push forward. The message to Max Gawn would be to work hard back to support the defence but also slide forward and try and hit the scoreboard. Gawn must also spend some time out of the goalsquare when Luke Jackson rucks, which will force the Bulldogs defenders to readjust their match ups.

    WESTERN BULLDOGS

    WHAT TO EXPECT


    A physical and brutal start. It’s got to come from Stefan Martin as an aggressive ruckman and Marcus Bontempelli, Jack Macrae and Tom Liberatore in the middle. The centre bounce crew must set the scene. Winning territory and playing a strong forward-half game is the Bulldogs’ way and that’s when they play their best. The Bulldogs have a capacity to generate scores from inside-50s better than any other team so supply is the key, which generally comes from a committed, hardworking midfield group. Defending scores from stoppages will be a focus for the Bulldogs, who can’t allow Clayton Oliver and Christian Petracca to latch onto Max Gawn’s ruck work and charge out of stoppages like they did against Geelong. The Bulldogs will most likely want to saturate the stoppages with extra numbers to help out their defence and kickstart their attack.

    THE KEY

    The Bulldogs’ ball movement against Melbourne’s measly defensive set-up. The Demons have been a great pressure team all year but their tackle efficiency during finals has gone through the roof to 69.2 per cent. Without the ball, they are a tough team to play against. That is going to test the Bulldogs’ ball movement and in big games effective ball use is a critical element. The Bulldogs will need to ensure they get the ball in the hands of their best ball users and decision makers at every opportunity to kickstart their offence — whether it be Marcus Bontempelli, Caleb Daniel or Bailey Dale. Lacking courage or conviction with ball movement will play into the hands of the Melbourne defenders. Time to be daring.

    THE CHALLENGE

    Mastering inside-50 efficiency. How the Bulldogs kick inside-50 will determine the result. When Luke Beveridge’s team has kicked 85 points or more this year they have a 15-0 record. When they beat Melbourne in Round 19, they reached that 85-point mark. When they lost to the Demons in Round 11, they managed only 59 points and recorded their third-lowest inside-50 efficiency of the year. The Bulldogs have got to isolate and separate and create one-on-ones with space to lead into. Aaron Naughton needs to test Steven May’s hamstring with his explosive leading and the Bulldogs’ ball carriers need to lower the eyes and look for short hit up targets. It’s no point bombing in high balls for May and Jake Lever to pick off.

    THE CONCERN

    Max Gawn — both at stoppages and in general play. Martin and Tim English must play out of their skins to nullify the Demons’ captain. Gawn is match-hardened, fit and healthy. By comparison, an undersized Martin has had limited preparation after playing his first game since Round 12 in the preliminary final. Martin is strong around stoppages, but is he match-fit to go with Gawn when he pushes hard forward? A disclaimer also remains on English and whether he can be a ruthless competitor on the big stage. How much does English want to hurt, work and compete to dethrone the best ruckman in the competition? The other concern for the Bulldogs is Alex Keath’s hamstring.

    THE THEME

    Bring the ball to ground, especially inside forward 50. You have to take away Melbourne’s intercept prowess, which includes keeping Lever honest. It also works into the hands of the Bulldogs, who won the ground ball count by 37 against Port Adelaide in their preliminary final. Every time the ball hit the ground in that game, there were Bulldogs players ready to pounce. The Bulldogs key forwards simply have to either mark the ball or bring it to ground to invite their small forwards like Mitch Hannan and Cody Weightman into the game.

    THE STAR

    Marcus Bontempelli. I love his demeanour as a level-headed and composed captain. The occasion won’t bother him at all. The best players see the game unfold before others do and Bontempelli can make a high-pressure game like a Grand Final stand still. His penetration by foot will be key in a game where territory will be immensely important and I would not be surprised if he spends some time playing out of the goalsquare where he can impact the scoreboard. Bontempelli missed out on the Brownlow Medal but could well finish the year with a Norm Smith Medal.

    X-FACTOR

    Mitch Hannan. The medium-size forward gives the Bulldogs’ attack a point of difference and has kicked six goals in an exceptional finals campaign so far. He is competitive, gives 100% effort, is good in the air, hits the ground ball contest with great intensity and instinctively applies pressure. Forward 50 tackling in finals is critical and that is what Hannan can provide for his team. Will he become Melbourne’s ghost, as a player they let go last year?

    IF I WAS THE WESTERN BULLDOGS …

    Keath to Ben Brown. Zaine Cordy to Tom McDonald. Bailey Williams and Easton Wood as a combination will have to spend time on Bailey Fritsch. Start Martin in the ruck and wind him up to provide really strong competition against Max Gawn. Use Josh Dunkley at stages throughout the game to engage Clayton Oliver, particularly at stoppages in general play. You need to try and limit his first-possession gains that Oliver is so elite at. I’d be conscious of Gawn and particularly his tendency to slide forward. Martin must go all the way with him, be physical and try to take away Gawn’s run and jump at the footy. At times, roll Smith and Treloar up to stoppages to outnumber the Demons and force Simon Goodwin’s hand on what he’s going to do. Defensively, engage Lever with Hannan and a bit of Josh Shache. Try to get the match-up there that works for you.

    TAB ODDS
    Head to Head — Melbourne $1.65, Westetrn Bulldogs $2.25

    Line — Melbourne -8.5 points $1.90, Western Bulldogs +8.5 points $1.90

    Norm Smith Medal — Christian Petracca $6, Clayton Oliver $7, Marcus Bontempelli $8, Max Gawn $9, Jack Macrae $11, Bailey Smith $15

    MICK’S PREDICTION
    Melbourne by 5 points

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    Re: Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne 2021 analysis

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    Mick McGuane’s 2021 AFL Grand Final Preview: What to look for, who will win and why

    Defensively, engage Lever with Hannan and a bit of Josh Shache. Try to get the match-up there that works for you.
    Must get Naughton on to Lever like we did in round 19. Not because we think May will beat Naughton, but we know Lever will have his hands full against Naughton. Naughton will not only nullify him, but will beat him in the air and on the ground. May will be taken care of by either Hannan (round 19), or Schache.

    Harrison Petty will have fun on English, conceding almost 10cm (better check that one WOOFERS)
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    Re: Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne 2021 analysis

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    Must get Naughton on to Lever like we did in round 19. Not because we think May will beat Naughton, but we know Lever will have his hands full against Naughton. Naughton will not only nullify him, but will beat him in the air and on the ground. May will be taken care of by either Hannan (round 19), or Schache.

    Harrison Petty will have fun on English, conceding almost 10cm (better check that one WOOFERS)
    That potentially leaves Schache as that hard running link player. His endurance is as good as any tall forward in the game today, only Ben Brown would rival him (or Blicavs if we're talking all KPPs). If Schache takes a few deep rotations he can test May's hamstring too.

    English just needs to bring the ball to ground. I'm confident we can kick scores from stoppages and ground ball gets, but their tall defenders are several classes above what Port offered up.
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    Re: Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne 2021 analysis

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    Mick McGuane’s 2021 AFL Grand Final Preview: What to look for, who will win and why

    The big dance is almost here and it shapes as an intriguing contest between two sides who go about things a little differently.

    Collingwood 1990 premiership player Mick McGuane breaks down the Grand Final with this mega preview.

    MELBOURNE

    WHAT TO EXPECT

    The Demons to back their brand, which has got them this far. They are a tough and uncompromising side that gets the fire started at the coalface with Max Gawn, Clayton Oliver, Christian Petracca, Jack Viney and James Harmes. The start of this Grand Final will be brutal in a physical sense. Melbourne will try and create a strong territory game. They will look to get the game on their terms on the back of their clearance-winning ability, a high kick-to-handball ratio and ruthless forward half pressure that has been a feature of their finals series so far. Effective tackling, which is a choice, will also be front of mind for Melbourne players, who will be out to assault the Western Bulldogs ball carriers in a manic and physical way. History has no relevance with this group — it’s all about them creating their own.

    THE KEY

    Stifle the Bulldogs’ strength at stoppages. Win the contested ball and clearances but, most importantly, post-clearance contested ball wins must be a priority. The Demons need to “hunt with grunt” and they have players who do that well in Oliver, Petracca and Viney. But keeping good shape and width off the ball is equally important. It adds vital defensive layers off the contest which must exist against the Bulldogs so they just can’t flick the ball around to get their offensive ball movement into gear. That didn’t happen when these sides last met in Round 19, with the Bulldogs scoring 46 points from clearances — their fifth-most of the season. It’s not only about winning stoppages, but how you defend them as well. The Demons must get the right balance of when to attack and when to defend. Always rolling the dice could lead to disastrous consequences.

    THE CHALLENGE

    Can the key forwards stand up? You’ve got Tom McDonald, who was almost traded last year, and Ben Brown, who wasn’t given a contract at North Melbourne before finding a new home. Here’s a chance for both of them to solidify the reasons why they are on Melbourne’s list. In Grand Final’s, key forwards simply must stand up and impose themselves in the air as well as hit the scoreboard — think Jack Riewoldt, Tom Lynch, Tom Boyd and Josh Kennedy. When these sides last met in Round 19, Melbourne’s goals per inside-50 percentage was only 17.6 per cent which was their fourth-lowest efficiency of the year. They can’t afford a return like that again.

    THE CONCERN

    The finals preparation. As good as the Demons have been all year, the league’s pre-Grand Final bye adds an element of concern. Entering the Grand Final, the Demons would have only played one game in 28 days. That’s not ideal, and most players who have been in this situation before would say they would prefer continuity to ensure they are match-hardened and in a routine. The questions will be, will it help or hinder the team’s performance? How have the players dealt with it? And have too many players already played the game in their head? The Demons won’t want to be five per cent off. The other concern is Steven May’s hamstring. If it pops early in the game, Melbourne is in strife.

    THE THEME

    Stay the course and believe in what has got you here. Melbourne has had a team-first attitude this year and I’ve always been a believer that individuals can contribute but teams win Grand Finals. Players like Angus Brayshaw, Ed Langdon, Harrison Petty, Alex Neal-Bullen, James Jordan and James Harmes all understand the significant roles they play. When perfected well the team benefits. The Demons players will also need to be flexible in-game defensively and potentially sacrifice their own games for the benefit of the team. Structurally, an “in game” adjustment might be required, especially if Bailey Smith gets off the chain.

    THE STAR

    Christian Petracca. He continues to thrive and has matured into an elite footballer on the back of commitment to his trade and improved fitness levels. Petracca is clearly one of the competition’s game-breakers and we’ve witnessed with Dustin Martin what a match winner can do in finals. Much like Martin, Petracca is a centre-forward player who has logged only seven per cent of his possessions this year in the defensive 50 and he possesses similar breakaway power from stoppages which is so dangerous. Petracca has kicked 27.18 this year — which is great conversion overall — but in finals he has managed only 2.2 against Brisbane and 1.2 against Geelong. Take his chances in front of goal this week and he could join Martin as a Norm Smith Medal winner.

    X-FACTOR

    Bailey Fritsch. The 188cm forward might be a left-field choice, but I’ve got question marks over whether the small-to-medium size Bulldogs defenders can keep the small-to-medium Melbourne forwards quiet. In his two games against the Bulldogs this year, Fritsch has kicked a combined five goals out of a team total of 22 goals. He’s an unsung hero who gets the job done with no fuss. He is the type of player who can have five kicks but kick four goals given his lethal kicking leg — meaning he could help Melbourne win the game.

    IF I WAS MELBOURNE …

    Steven May picks up Aaron Naughton. Harrison Petty goes to Tim English. A combination of Trent Rivers and Michael Hibberd goes to Cody Weightman. Then Jake Lever takes his pick of who he needs to play on for his creative intercepting game to thrive. Keeping Bailey Smith quiet will be a huge consideration given his out-of-this-world finals series. Smith is the only player since 1999 to average at least 20 disposals, 500m gained, five inside-50s and 2.5 goals a game in a finals series. You can ill-afford to let him roam free and must ensure his disposals are under pressure. I’d start James Harmes as a high half-forward but then have him roll up to engage Tom Liberatore in general play, allowing Christian Petracca the creative license to push forward. The message to Max Gawn would be to work hard back to support the defence but also slide forward and try and hit the scoreboard. Gawn must also spend some time out of the goalsquare when Luke Jackson rucks, which will force the Bulldogs defenders to readjust their match ups.

    WESTERN BULLDOGS

    WHAT TO EXPECT


    A physical and brutal start. It’s got to come from Stefan Martin as an aggressive ruckman and Marcus Bontempelli, Jack Macrae and Tom Liberatore in the middle. The centre bounce crew must set the scene. Winning territory and playing a strong forward-half game is the Bulldogs’ way and that’s when they play their best. The Bulldogs have a capacity to generate scores from inside-50s better than any other team so supply is the key, which generally comes from a committed, hardworking midfield group. Defending scores from stoppages will be a focus for the Bulldogs, who can’t allow Clayton Oliver and Christian Petracca to latch onto Max Gawn’s ruck work and charge out of stoppages like they did against Geelong. The Bulldogs will most likely want to saturate the stoppages with extra numbers to help out their defence and kickstart their attack.

    THE KEY

    The Bulldogs’ ball movement against Melbourne’s measly defensive set-up. The Demons have been a great pressure team all year but their tackle efficiency during finals has gone through the roof to 69.2 per cent. Without the ball, they are a tough team to play against. That is going to test the Bulldogs’ ball movement and in big games effective ball use is a critical element. The Bulldogs will need to ensure they get the ball in the hands of their best ball users and decision makers at every opportunity to kickstart their offence — whether it be Marcus Bontempelli, Caleb Daniel or Bailey Dale. Lacking courage or conviction with ball movement will play into the hands of the Melbourne defenders. Time to be daring.

    THE CHALLENGE

    Mastering inside-50 efficiency. How the Bulldogs kick inside-50 will determine the result. When Luke Beveridge’s team has kicked 85 points or more this year they have a 15-0 record. When they beat Melbourne in Round 19, they reached that 85-point mark. When they lost to the Demons in Round 11, they managed only 59 points and recorded their third-lowest inside-50 efficiency of the year. The Bulldogs have got to isolate and separate and create one-on-ones with space to lead into. Aaron Naughton needs to test Steven May’s hamstring with his explosive leading and the Bulldogs’ ball carriers need to lower the eyes and look for short hit up targets. It’s no point bombing in high balls for May and Jake Lever to pick off.

    THE CONCERN

    Max Gawn — both at stoppages and in general play. Martin and Tim English must play out of their skins to nullify the Demons’ captain. Gawn is match-hardened, fit and healthy. By comparison, an undersized Martin has had limited preparation after playing his first game since Round 12 in the preliminary final. Martin is strong around stoppages, but is he match-fit to go with Gawn when he pushes hard forward? A disclaimer also remains on English and whether he can be a ruthless competitor on the big stage. How much does English want to hurt, work and compete to dethrone the best ruckman in the competition? The other concern for the Bulldogs is Alex Keath’s hamstring.

    THE THEME

    Bring the ball to ground, especially inside forward 50. You have to take away Melbourne’s intercept prowess, which includes keeping Lever honest. It also works into the hands of the Bulldogs, who won the ground ball count by 37 against Port Adelaide in their preliminary final. Every time the ball hit the ground in that game, there were Bulldogs players ready to pounce. The Bulldogs key forwards simply have to either mark the ball or bring it to ground to invite their small forwards like Mitch Hannan and Cody Weightman into the game.

    THE STAR

    Marcus Bontempelli. I love his demeanour as a level-headed and composed captain. The occasion won’t bother him at all. The best players see the game unfold before others do and Bontempelli can make a high-pressure game like a Grand Final stand still. His penetration by foot will be key in a game where territory will be immensely important and I would not be surprised if he spends some time playing out of the goalsquare where he can impact the scoreboard. Bontempelli missed out on the Brownlow Medal but could well finish the year with a Norm Smith Medal.

    X-FACTOR

    Mitch Hannan. The medium-size forward gives the Bulldogs’ attack a point of difference and has kicked six goals in an exceptional finals campaign so far. He is competitive, gives 100% effort, is good in the air, hits the ground ball contest with great intensity and instinctively applies pressure. Forward 50 tackling in finals is critical and that is what Hannan can provide for his team. Will he become Melbourne’s ghost, as a player they let go last year?

    IF I WAS THE WESTERN BULLDOGS …

    Keath to Ben Brown. Zaine Cordy to Tom McDonald. Bailey Williams and Easton Wood as a combination will have to spend time on Bailey Fritsch. Start Martin in the ruck and wind him up to provide really strong competition against Max Gawn. Use Josh Dunkley at stages throughout the game to engage Clayton Oliver, particularly at stoppages in general play. You need to try and limit his first-possession gains that Oliver is so elite at. I’d be conscious of Gawn and particularly his tendency to slide forward. Martin must go all the way with him, be physical and try to take away Gawn’s run and jump at the footy. At times, roll Smith and Treloar up to stoppages to outnumber the Demons and force Simon Goodwin’s hand on what he’s going to do. Defensively, engage Lever with Hannan and a bit of Josh Shache. Try to get the match-up there that works for you.

    TAB ODDS
    Head to Head — Melbourne $1.65, Westetrn Bulldogs $2.25

    Line — Melbourne -8.5 points $1.90, Western Bulldogs +8.5 points $1.90

    Norm Smith Medal — Christian Petracca $6, Clayton Oliver $7, Marcus Bontempelli $8, Max Gawn $9, Jack Macrae $11, Bailey Smith $15

    MICK’S PREDICTION
    Melbourne by 5 points
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    I think Lloyd is right - Petty will go to Naughton so that it frees May to play on English. Lever on Schache.

    It protects May's hamstring and he can out-body English 1-v-1.

    All counts on Petty being able to hold Naughty though, so I would be looking for Aaron to take him to the cleaners. English just needs to continually bring the ball to ground.
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    I think Lloyd is right - Petty will go to Naughton so that it frees May to play on English. Lever on Schache.

    It protects May's hamstring and he can out-body English 1-v-1.

    All counts on Petty being able to hold Naughty though, so I would be looking for Aaron to take him to the cleaners. English just needs to continually bring the ball to ground.
    May is giving up some serious height to English. English just needs to make sure he doesn’t get pushed around too easily. We’ll have a similar problem down back with Jackson/Gawn though if Gardner isn’t playing. As usual, whichever midfield can do a better job at not allowing clean entry into the oppositions forward line will probably win.

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    Am I overly sensitive or is he a bit lukewarm on us and more gushing on Melbourne’s strengths? Reading the text I thought we’d lose by five goals and the Melbourne ‘concern’ is only the extra week off.
    I've actually been put off by the gushing to the extent I feel like it's been made difficult to really get some enjoyment and a buzz out of making the GF. Perhaps my expectations were artificially raised by what occurred in 2016. Perhaps the media is full of jerks.
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    We have Dale, Daniel, Williams, Duryea as good to elite kicks out from backline. Who does Dees have that are this type of quality -Salem, Lever? I do not know Dees well enough to know.

    I thought this, Big Stef’s competitiveness, our midfield depth, our finals experience, Bont and Naughty and Cody and possibly B.Smith are our strengths. Add to that Treloar who might just be in cusp of a great game and Dunks as a midfield defensive stopper & hardnut, reliability of Macrae & Libba’s cleverness and I think we are in with a mighty good chance. Have not mentioned English but wouldn’t it be great if he walked tall, put his body in the line & helped bring ball to ground for our smalls to pounce on.

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    Re: Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne 2021 analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    I've actually been put off by the gushing to the extent I feel like it's been made difficult to really get some enjoyment and a buzz out of making the GF. Perhaps my expectations were artificially raised by what occurred in 2016. Perhaps the media is full of jerks.
    Yep, I actually haven't watched anything footy related this week because I'm sick of the Melbourne narrative.

    I mean, Lloyd comes out and says their midfield is clearly better? You're kidding me.

    If we win, I'm going to be throwing a LOT of egg around.
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    Re: Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne 2021 analysis

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    We have Dale, Daniel, Williams, Duryea as good to elite kicks out from backline. Who does Dees have that are this type of quality -Salem, Lever? I do not know Dees well enough to know.
    Salem and Bowey are their best users from D50, Rivers is more a metres gained type and May can also thump it but Melbourne rank pretty lowly for disposal efficiency overall. They just prefer to gain territory, pressure the opposition and get it into dangerous positions inside 50 rather than cut teams apart through ball use.

    We definitely have more elite users in our side. Finding time and space to use the ball well is the challenge against Melbourne.
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    Re: Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne 2021 analysis

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    I think Lloyd is right - Petty will go to Naughton so that it frees May to play on English. Lever on Schache.

    It protects May's hamstring and he can out-body English 1-v-1.

    All counts on Petty being able to hold Naughty though, so I would be looking for Aaron to take him to the cleaners. English just needs to continually bring the ball to ground.
    I would put May on Naughton if I were them. Only way to stop Naughton is stop his run at the ball. Lever to go for the marks while May bodies Naughton. Key for us is English to use his height or Schache to spoil, then its Flea time
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