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    Re: 2021 Draft Strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    Your loonie alert? I could have done with one of those.
    Not sure it'd have the necessary battery life for you.
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    I reckon GWS will bid on Darcy with pick 2, then Daicos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot View Post
    I reckon GWS will bid on Darcy with pick 2, then Daicos.
    They know we will just match it so there's zero in it for them
    Maybe a Visy bag for Jason McCartney is in order
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    Quote Originally Posted by boydogs View Post
    They know we will just match it so there's zero in it for them
    Maybe a Visy bag for Jason McCartney is in order
    Yep, but it would be a good tactical move, by ensuring most of our picks are eaten up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot View Post
    Yep, but it would be a good tactical move, by ensuring most of our picks are eaten up.
    Why not bid on Daicos at 2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMahatma View Post
    Why not bid on Daicos at 2?
    GWS on record as saying they are after key position players. That was said mid season though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Late in the draft do you think we might look at one or two of the Footscray boys?
    Other than that perhaps a versatile tall or a mid.
    Would we consider someone like Lonie who we've apparently previously had some interest in.
    Like the Lonie suggestion. Have rated him highly since pre draft and think hed complement us nicely.

    I wonder if Brander is a chance too?
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    North won’t bid on Daicos, Darcy with top pick


    North Melbourne will not bid at pick No.1 on either Collingwood’s feted father-son Nick Daicos or Western Bulldogs’ father-son recruit Sam Darcy, in what will be a small relief for the Magpies and Bulldogs.

    Sources have confirmed that North will call out the name of Jason Horne-Francis at pick one – the club’s choice an open secret in recruiting circles – and the Kangaroos want their first pick, a gifted inside and outside midfielder from South Australia, to know that they rate him as the best player in the draft.

    The Magpies have already been told that North will not bid on Daicos, but sources at AFL clubs said they had not received any such guarantee from Greater Western Sydney, who have also indicated interest in drafting a tall at that choice – a positional need that clubs believe make it more likely that the Giants will place a bid for 203-centimetre Darcy, the son of ex-star ruckman Luke Darcy, at pick two.

    If the Giants do not bid for Daicos at pick two or three (they can bid for more than one player under the system), then it appears likely that Gold Coast will bid on the son of Collingwood great Peter Daicos with the Suns’ first pick (No.3 or No.4, depending on whether there is a bid for Darcy).

    Horne-Francis has been a standout for South Adelaide this year, with the ability to win the ball in the midfield trenches, play outside the contest and kick goals when stationed forward.

    Many recruiters rate him as best player in the pool, though there are others who have Daicos as the best, in a draft that has been rendered difficult to assess due to the lack of under-19 games in Victoria compared to SA and Western Australia.

    As pick one in the national draft, Horne-Francis would also be entitled to $20,000 from the AFL sponsor NAB as the first player drafted; last year, the NAB payment was split between key forwards Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and Riley Thilthorpe after Adelaide bid on the former, a next generation academy player tied to the Bulldogs, and drafted Thilthorpe at pick two.

    Collingwood have assembled 2406 draft points in their first seven draft picks, enough to match a bid at pick No.1 (2400, counting the 20 per cent discount). If the bid for Daicos comes in at pick No.4 from the Suns, the Magpies would need 1627 points, a scenario that would allow them to do further pick swaps.

    Collingwood hold picks 36, 38, 40, 46, 48, 55 and 58, along with 78 and 79, but they may not utilise those later choices. The Magpies are certain to be involved in further pick swaps during the draft, as their draft picks are consumed by the Daicos bid, given that they hold three future third-rounders.

    The order of picks for all clubs changes after bids for academy or father-sons land.

    The Bulldogs need 2013 points to match a bid at pick No.2 for Darcy without going into deficit. The Dogs have picks 23, 43, 44, 52 and 93 – and those five picks would be sufficient to match that hypothetical bid.

    North have already spurned significant offers for pick one and the rights to Horne-Francis, with the Crows offering their 2021 and 2022 first-rounders and Melbourne’s future first, for pick one and North’s 2022 second choice in return.

    Horne-Francis, who is the stepson of former Melbourne, Brisbane and Port Adelaide player Fabian Francis, has said that it is hard not to see himself as a North Melbourne player “when there is a lot of media stuff about it”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    North won’t bid on Daicos, Darcy with top pick


    North Melbourne will not bid at pick No.1 on either Collingwood’s feted father-son Nick Daicos or Western Bulldogs’ father-son recruit Sam Darcy, in what will be a small relief for the Magpies and Bulldogs.

    Sources have confirmed that North will call out the name of Jason Horne-Francis at pick one – the club’s choice an open secret in recruiting circles – and the Kangaroos want their first pick, a gifted inside and outside midfielder from South Australia, to know that they rate him as the best player in the draft.

    The Magpies have already been told that North will not bid on Daicos, but sources at AFL clubs said they had not received any such guarantee from Greater Western Sydney, who have also indicated interest in drafting a tall at that choice – a positional need that clubs believe make it more likely that the Giants will place a bid for 203-centimetre Darcy, the son of ex-star ruckman Luke Darcy, at pick two.

    If the Giants do not bid for Daicos at pick two or three (they can bid for more than one player under the system), then it appears likely that Gold Coast will bid on the son of Collingwood great Peter Daicos with the Suns’ first pick (No.3 or No.4, depending on whether there is a bid for Darcy).

    Horne-Francis has been a standout for South Adelaide this year, with the ability to win the ball in the midfield trenches, play outside the contest and kick goals when stationed forward.

    Many recruiters rate him as best player in the pool, though there are others who have Daicos as the best, in a draft that has been rendered difficult to assess due to the lack of under-19 games in Victoria compared to SA and Western Australia.

    As pick one in the national draft, Horne-Francis would also be entitled to $20,000 from the AFL sponsor NAB as the first player drafted; last year, the NAB payment was split between key forwards Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and Riley Thilthorpe after Adelaide bid on the former, a next generation academy player tied to the Bulldogs, and drafted Thilthorpe at pick two.

    Collingwood have assembled 2406 draft points in their first seven draft picks, enough to match a bid at pick No.1 (2400, counting the 20 per cent discount). If the bid for Daicos comes in at pick No.4 from the Suns, the Magpies would need 1627 points, a scenario that would allow them to do further pick swaps.

    Collingwood hold picks 36, 38, 40, 46, 48, 55 and 58, along with 78 and 79, but they may not utilise those later choices. The Magpies are certain to be involved in further pick swaps during the draft, as their draft picks are consumed by the Daicos bid, given that they hold three future third-rounders.

    The order of picks for all clubs changes after bids for academy or father-sons land.

    The Bulldogs need 2013 points to match a bid at pick No.2 for Darcy without going into deficit. The Dogs have picks 23, 43, 44, 52 and 93 – and those five picks would be sufficient to match that hypothetical bid.

    North have already spurned significant offers for pick one and the rights to Horne-Francis, with the Crows offering their 2021 and 2022 first-rounders and Melbourne’s future first, for pick one and North’s 2022 second choice in return.

    Horne-Francis, who is the stepson of former Melbourne, Brisbane and Port Adelaide player Fabian Francis, has said that it is hard not to see himself as a North Melbourne player “when there is a lot of media stuff about it”.
    I think it highly likely GWS bid on Darcy first, irrespective of their stated 'need for KPPs'. Purely from a strategic point of view, it would make sense to wipe our draft board before they go Collingwood's.
    I would've liked us to explore further splitting our pick 23 to ensure we've still got some picks worth something to use in the draft.
    Hopefully that's still being considered by Power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot View Post
    I think it highly likely GWS bid on Darcy first, irrespective of their stated 'need for KPPs'. Purely from a strategic point of view, it would make sense to wipe our draft board before they go Collingwood's.
    I would've liked us to explore further splitting our pick 23 to ensure we've still got some picks worth something to use in the draft.
    Hopefully that's still being considered by Power.
    The extra list spot created by Wood's retirement may give Sam more flexibility to split that pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    The extra list spot created by Wood's retirement may give Sam more flexibility to split that pick.
    Good point, I get the feeling we might be stretched just a bit for cap space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Good point, I get the feeling we might be stretched just a bit for cap space.
    Why?

    Bains said we had some wriggle room in our cap.
    We pass it to Charlie, Charlie onto Jones, Arthur to Jamarra and Marra puts it through. Aren't we good, Aren't we good....

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
    Why?

    Bains said we had some wriggle room in our cap.
    Wriggle room rather than a war chest though and with 20 unsigned players beyond 2022 we might need every dollar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Good point, I get the feeling we might be stretched just a bit for cap space.
    Apart from Bontempelli and I assume Macrae our perennial champs who are on the big bucks?

    I feel a have a vague memory Naughton might be on a decent contract, but can't imagine too many others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Wriggle room rather than a war chest though and with 20 unsigned players beyond 2022 we might need every dollar.
    Think you answered my question here.

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