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11-08-2023, 10:23 AM
#226
Re: Assistant Coaches
Originally Posted by
Vred
I've heard a few mixed stories over the last few days regarding Smith, cannot get a straight story from my contacts within the 4 walls of the club, but his departure/firing is already causing some angst/upset staff/players, it has not gone down well and will leave a giant gaping culture hole in our club.
Webb will most certainly be heading back to WA
No word on Spang yet, lead to believe he will be moved back to the original role we recruited him for (Development) if we can find a more experienced replacement.
Board is determined to surrounded Bevo with very seasoned and experienced assistant coaches who come from winning systems, and are willing to go over the softcap to do so (and about time if you ask me).
Our football department set-up would be at best described as puzzling and Bevo has often mentioned that managing within the constraints of the soft cap has been challenging.
As an example the annual footy camp was at Rye this year rather than our normal camp in Queensland and the soft cap challenges was the main reason for that decision.
Another example is losing Chris Maple, who it's believed was pushed out after pushing back with Bevo on some issues, and having his role split between 3 others rather than a genuine and dedicated replacement. This highlights we are looking for creative ways to stay under the soft cap.
It's interesting to hear that the club is keen to surround Bevo with experienced coaches which of course should be the aim but why wouldn't they prioritise the GM of footy role? It's effectively making Beveridge both coach and GM and he has a different reporting line than most other clubs.
Regarding the assistant coaches losing Smith will be felt by the club and there is some questions on Webb and Lade's futures.
Spangher might be the most likely to stay and I don't believe he is likely to be shuffled into a development role.
We will need to be pro-active in reaching out to assistant coaches and I wonder if King or even someone like Dew might be in the mix.
The bigger question is how our finances are currently spent within the footy department?
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11-08-2023, 10:30 AM
#227
Re: Assistant Coaches
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Our football department set-up would be at best described as puzzling and Bevo has often mentioned that managing within the constraints of the soft cap has been challenging.
As an example the annual footy camp was at Rye this year rather than our normal camp in Queensland and the soft cap challenges was the main reason for that decision.
Another example is losing Chris Maple, who it's believed was pushed out after pushing back with Bevo on some issues, and having his role split between 3 others rather than a genuine and dedicated replacement. This highlights we are looking for creative ways to stay under the soft cap.
It's interesting to hear that the club is keen to surround Bevo with experienced coaches which of course should be the aim but why wouldn't they prioritise the GM of footy role? It's effectively making Beveridge both coach and GM and he has a different reporting line than most other clubs.
Regarding the assistant coaches losing Smith will be felt by the club and there is some questions on Webb and Lade's futures.
Spangher might be the most likely to stay and I don't believe he is likely to be shuffled into a development role.
We will need to be pro-active in reaching out to assistant coaches and I wonder if King or even someone like Dew might be in the mix.
The bigger question is how our finances are currently spent within the footy department?
Do other clubs whinge about the soft cap reductions as much as Bevo?
I mean the club making a profit is probably worth mentioning.
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11-08-2023, 10:31 AM
#228
Re: Assistant Coaches
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Our football department set-up would be at best described as puzzling and Bevo has often mentioned that managing within the constraints of the soft cap has been challenging.
As an example the annual footy camp was at Rye this year rather than our normal camp in Queensland and the soft cap challenges was the main reason for that decision.
Another example is losing Chris Maple, who it's believed was pushed out after pushing back with Bevo on some issues, and having his role split between 3 others rather than a genuine and dedicated replacement. This highlights we are looking for creative ways to stay under the soft cap.
It's interesting to hear that the club is keen to surround Bevo with experienced coaches which of course should be the aim but why wouldn't they prioritise the GM of footy role? It's effectively making Beveridge both coach and GM and he has a different reporting line than most other clubs.
Regarding the assistant coaches losing Smith will be felt by the club and there is some questions on Webb and Lade's futures.
Spangher might be the most likely to stay and I don't believe he is likely to be shuffled into a development role.
We will need to be pro-active in reaching out to assistant coaches and I wonder if King or even someone like Dew might be in the mix.
The bigger question is how our finances are currently spent within the footy department?
No mention of Chris Grant? He seems to always escape scrutiny
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11-08-2023, 10:53 AM
#229
Re: Assistant Coaches
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Do other clubs whinge about the soft cap reductions as much as Bevo?
I mean the club making a profit is probably worth mentioning.
A lot of clubs do mention it but it does but it seems a bit more personal for Bevo.
If the AFL eases the cap limits to help retain more assistant coaches I think it would be a good thing.
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11-08-2023, 10:56 AM
#230
Re: Assistant Coaches
Originally Posted by
SlimPickens
No mention of Chris Grant? He seems to always escape scrutiny
Not from my perspective, he's set-up the footy department and when I asked him why Maple hadn't been replaced he mentioned the soft cap constraints and how the role was split amongst 3 others which meant he was also taking on some additional duties.
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11-08-2023, 11:07 AM
#231
Re: Assistant Coaches
Originally Posted by
SlimPickens
No mention of Chris Grant? He seems to always escape scrutiny
I could live with a refresh.
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11-08-2023, 11:37 AM
#232
Re: Assistant Coaches
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Not from my perspective, he's set-up the footy department and when I asked him why Maple hadn't been replaced he mentioned the soft cap constraints and how the role was split amongst 3 others which meant he was also taking on some additional duties.
I have a running word I use when something breaks in my job.
Complex.
These days we are working in a very complex environment.
The Dogs seem to be running the same tactic, using "soft cap" instead.
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11-08-2023, 01:30 PM
#233
Re: Assistant Coaches
The players are showing a lot of love for Bubba on socials in the last couple of days.
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11-08-2023, 01:33 PM
#234
Re: Assistant Coaches
Originally Posted by
angelopetraglia
The players are showing a lot of love for Bubba on socials in the last couple of days.
As they should, innovative training drills, great communicator and he had genuine care for the playing group.
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11-08-2023, 02:49 PM
#235
Re: Assistant Coaches
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Regarding the assistant coaches losing Smith will be felt by the club and there is some questions on Webb and Lade's futures.
Spangher might be the most likely to stay and I don't believe he is likely to be shuffled into a development role.
I've defo missed something about Lade. What's he done wrong/not done a year into the role?
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11-08-2023, 03:26 PM
#236
Re: Assistant Coaches
Originally Posted by
MrMahatma
I've defo missed something about Lade. What's he done wrong/not done a year into the role?
I believe there is some speculation that he and Bevo aren't exactly working well together. Guess we shall see if that's true.
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11-08-2023, 03:38 PM
#237
Re: Assistant Coaches
Wish Bubba well. He has been a massive part of our club for such a long time both as a player and assistant coach. Huge as defensive coach for many years and instrumental in our 2016 success.
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11-08-2023, 04:05 PM
#238
Re: Assistant Coaches
Originally Posted by
MrMahatma
I've defo missed something about Lade. What's he done wrong/not done a year into the role?
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
I believe there is some speculation that he and Bevo aren't exactly working well together. Guess we shall see if that's true.
He's contracted so it wouldn't be that much of a a surprise if he continues on but as Granty has highlighted there is some speculation that it's not quite living up to expectations for him. If another club inquired about his services then we might allow him to explore his options.
I don't think there has been any problems with his performance.
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11-08-2023, 04:14 PM
#239
Re: Assistant Coaches
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
He's contracted so it wouldn't be that much of a a surprise if he continues on but as Granty has highlighted there is some speculation that it's not quite living up to expectations for him. If another club inquired about his services then we might allow him to explore his options.
I don't think there has been any problems with his performance.
I don't understand where this information is coming from?
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11-08-2023, 04:15 PM
#240
Re: Assistant Coaches
Originally Posted by
Eastdog
Wish Bubba well. He has been a massive part of our club for such a long time both as a player and assistant coach. Huge as defensive coach for many years and instrumental in our 2016 success.
I recall him playing and Gary Ablett senior running through the back of him in a marking contest when he was young down at Sedat Park.
He was a sniper that bloke. I remember my mum, who absolutely loved Rohan being a local boy was nearly going to jump the fence with her brollie!
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