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08-08-2022, 05:42 PM
#151
Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
Mantis
Why do you always say a comment is tongue in cheek or a joke when questioned?
Do I? I better use emojis more
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08-08-2022, 05:46 PM
#152
Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
Mantis
Anyway, as others have mentioned Lewis's debut was very good... why we weren't able to develop his game from that point on is a source of great frustration to me.
It is a great question. Is it the player's innate skill and work ethic or is it our developmental ability? I don't think Lewis ever got a sustained run at it with us. He played 24 games in five seasons. However the biggest factor that probably held him back the most was his intensity at the contest and overall aggression. He was just too weak in too many contests. Bevo as has been mentioned many times on these boards has a low tolerance for players who are weak at the contest (see Lippa).
So is ones ability to attack the contest with vigor a learned trait or something that comes innate. I think it is the latter. It is hard or nigh on impossible to teach. You either have it or you don't. Lewis Young doesn't have it.
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08-08-2022, 05:48 PM
#153
Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Darcy is already ahead of those two blokes.
I read over the comments on here after the Young debut and you were singing his praises.
Young had 21 disposals and 9 marks and from memory one terrific park mark. Darcy had 10 and 8 which was more than OK.
Darcy looked composed and a good prospect but you can't be comparing debut games between he and Young which is what I referred to.
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08-08-2022, 05:50 PM
#154
Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
angelopetraglia
It is a great question. Is it the player's innate skill and work ethic or is our developmental ability? I don't think Lewis ever got a sustained run at it with us. He played 24 games in five seasons. However the biggest factor that probably held him back the most was his intensity at the contest and overall aggression. He was just too weak in too many contests. Bevo as has been mentioned many times on these boards has a low tolerance for players who are weak at the contest (see Lippa).
So is ones ability to attack the contest with vigor a learned trait or something that comes innate. I think it is the latter. It is hard or nigh on impossible to teach. You either have it or you don't. Lewis Young doesn't have it.
Youngy hasn't put on the muscle that I thought he would. Here's hoping Darc does.
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08-08-2022, 05:51 PM
#155
Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I read over the comments on here after the Young debut and you were singing his praises.
Young had 21 disposals and 9 marks and from memory one terrific park mark. Darcy had 10 and 8 which was more than OK.
Darcy looked composed and a good prospect but you can't be comparing debut games between he and Young which is what I referred to.
Of course I was singing his praises and I was hoping he would make it, but it just didn't work out.
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Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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08-08-2022, 05:54 PM
#156
Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
Bulldog4life
Youngy hasn't put on the muscle that I thought he would. Here's hoping Darc does.
It is not just muscle. It is a mindset. It is how you see the game. It is how you attack the contest and the ball. Naughton in his first year was skinny yet through his body into contests with reckless abandonment.
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08-08-2022, 06:03 PM
#157
Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
angelopetraglia
It is not just muscle. It is a mindset. It is how you see the game. It is how you attack the contest and the ball. Naughton in his first year was skinny yet through his body into contests with reckless abandonment.
McStay out muscled Young at the Gabba when it counted. Mindset is important but if you ain't got the muscle that's a problem.
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08-08-2022, 06:04 PM
#158
Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Of course I was singing his praises and I was hoping he would make it, but it just didn't work out.
So you weren't comparing debut games between both of the boys like I was when you quoted me?
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08-08-2022, 06:06 PM
#159
Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
angelopetraglia
Lewis Young on Debut
Best part of the photo is two fold.
1. EW will be happy as Young used old mate Suckers as a launch pad
2. EW is reminded that Suckers donned the RWB jumper
More of an In Bruges guy?
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08-08-2022, 06:12 PM
#160
Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
So you weren't comparing debut games between both of the boys like I was when you quoted me?
it was a joke. Ok I will delete.
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Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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08-08-2022, 06:13 PM
#161
Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
Scorlibo
I thought he was impressive but had some very clear vulnerabilities in his game. His strength and conditioning will come with time, but he's not close to the level required at the moment. His kicking needs work - would like to see him kick off a few steps, his shanks are a bit predictable because he doesn't balance himself, taking only one step. Generally I think the default for players of Sam's size should be to look for a handball first, 9 kicks and 1 handball is not the kind of ratio I'd expect or want to see for a 200cm+ player.
I think it is Darcy's modus operandi. Was quite similar in the VFL game last week but was a bit more composed and able to pull them off.
I suspect if he does play as a defender long term we'll be pretty happy with his willingness to contribute to the rebound when the opportunity arises rather than hold up and slow down play to look for a safe option every time.
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08-08-2022, 09:28 PM
#162
Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
hujsh
I think it is Darcy's modus operandi. Was quite similar in the VFL game last week but was a bit more composed and able to pull them off.
I suspect if he does play as a defender long term we'll be pretty happy with his willingness to contribute to the rebound when the opportunity arises rather than hold up and slow down play to look for a safe option every time.
Agree
Having watched a few of the televised VFL, Darcy looks to be an excellent use off both sides by foot.
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08-08-2022, 10:45 PM
#163
Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
azabob
Best part of the photo is two fold.
1. EW will be happy as Young used old mate Suckers as a launch pad
2. EW is reminded that Suckers donned the RWB jumper
Actually the best bit is Lewy's left boot doing what I wish I could've.
"It's over. It's all over."
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08-08-2022, 10:49 PM
#164
Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
Actually the best bit is Lewy's left boot doing what I wish I could've.
Given Matt a shoulder massage?
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08-08-2022, 11:39 PM
#165
Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Given Matt a shoulder massage?
Do you know your left from right?
"It's over. It's all over."