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Rating our list 2021: Tim English 44
Hi All,
During the off season I thought I would start our list rating again. I won't included the new recruits as there is nothing to go on and I'll leave out desisted and retired players as there is no point.
Like last time I'll count down from the highest number to the lowest but I thought the poll rating this time will go on a different tack and get Woofers thoughts on how they rank from Elite to Below Average.
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Re: Rating our list 2021: Tim English 44
Has shown glimpses of the potential that has many saying he could be the next big ruck star in the competition, and will be searching to put the puzzle together in 2021. Enters the season with 47 games to his name, including 18 in 2020, and his performances varied greatly, though he finished eighth in the best and fairest. At his best, his ruck work was deft and his impact as an intercept marker was felt. Contracted until the end of 2022.
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Rating our list 2021: Tim English 44
Gary can you merge this poll I stuffed up and took too long to add the poll in
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Re: Rating our list 2021: Tim English 44
I going to vote Average at this point in his career. As a ruck man he would be below average but he did show good signs at stages through out the year.
I wonder how much Naughton putting a knee in his ear upset his year.
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Re: Rating our list 2021: Tim English 44
After being knocked out by his flat mate, English lost confidence. Before that he had a pretty good spell as an interceptor in the backline taking many marks and kicked a few goals in the first half of the season.
2022 will be a big year for him and needs to take the next step as a ruckman
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Re: Rating our list 2021: Tim English 44
Below average but still young for a ruck
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Re: Rating our list 2021: Tim English 44
I've put above average due to age and versatility. However, this next season is one he should start showing a lot more.
A grittier and more defencively minded midfield wouldn't expose him as much as he is sometimes, but honestly, his lack of dominance in the ruck in my view is used by our midfield to find a way (i.e. we have to set up to account for being dominated in the ruck) to get the game on their terms without actually being defencive anyway. We all saw in the GF that our midfield has a problem that needs to be rectified here, and I think that's independent of English or anyone else rucking.
I'm expecting a breakout year. Thanks for starting this thread again HD60!
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Re: Rating our list 2021: Tim English 44
English is quite versatile for a player of his size, but he is easily bullied.
Unless he finds some aggression, I fear that his career is going to be an almost rather than what his athletic traits should provide as an elite.
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Re: Rating our list 2021: Tim English 44
A very important player for us, he was average this season but I hold high hopes that he will be above average for us in 2022.
I still haven't given up hope that he can become a good ruckman but the clock is now ticking and by the end of 2022 we should know if he can make it as a primary ruckman.
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Re: Rating our list 2021: Tim English 44
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
A very important player for us, he was average this season but I hold high hopes that he will be above average for us in 2022.
I still haven't given up hope that he can become a good ruckman but the clock is now ticking and by the end of 2022 we should know if he can make it as a primary ruckman.
If he does bring the aggression that is required to be the primary ruck, we will be an exceptional team.
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Re: Rating our list 2021: Tim English 44
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Bulldog Joe
If he does bring the aggression that is required to be the primary ruck, we will be an exceptional team.
How confident are you that he can bring the intensity needed to be super competitive and aggressive? For me I think it's unlikely as I feel it's something you either have or you don't.
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Re: Rating our list 2021: Tim English 44
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Mantis
How confident are you that he can bring the intensity needed to be super competitive and aggressive? For me I think it's unlikely as I feel it's something you either have or you don't.
Intensity can be taught to players where it may not come naturally. It's up to Tim to accept that challenge and to work out a way that make sure it doesn't slide.
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Re: Rating our list 2021: Tim English 44
Originally Posted by
Mantis
How confident are you that he can bring the intensity needed to be super competitive and aggressive? For me I think it's unlikely as I feel it's something you either have or you don't.
Unfortunately, I agree that it seems to be lacking in his make-up.
However, like everything in life, you can change a characteristic if you really want to do so.
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Re: Rating our list 2021: Tim English 44
He did his best work pre head knock, had shown good capability around the ground and most pleasingly a good knack for leading at the ball and marking inside F50.
I have him flagged as above average heading into 22 and he'll be a critical part of whether we climb the mountain again.
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Re: Rating our list 2021: Tim English 44
He has only played 48 games.
He is ahead of both Gawn and Grundy at the same time in their careers in regards to stats. Needs to be given time which is the reason Martin has gone on again.
Lets judge him at the end of 2022 and see if there is any improvement. At his age when there is improvement it will come quite quickly. Another pre season on the weights.
Also don't underestimate the hit he copped last year was quite severe missing 6+ weeks.
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