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09-05-2022, 08:40 PM
#211
Re: Injury List - 2022
Originally Posted by
Swoop
I think injuries happen. I think our best players have played consistently over the past few seasons. This includes Bont, English, Macrae, Libba, Hunter, Bailey Smith, Dale, Daniel, Williams, Bruce and Naughton.
I thought we managed Hannan and Treloar well, who both came across from other clubs with history.
Last year we missed Dunkley, Treloar, English, Richards and Bruce all from trauma injuries. Are they preventable? Maybe, maybe not.
I like the discussion, the points people make are valid and it's an important discussion. Losing attracts a greater spotlight but I'm confident the same questions are asked behind closed doors.
It is a high intensity sport. Some players are prone to soft tissue injuries over others. Does the data indicate we have a disproportionate amount of injuries compared to other clubs? I'm not sure.
I don't think you're wrong. but the VdM going down with yet another soft tissue, 2 weeks after coming back on top of English and Keath suggests we are not getting something right on that side of the ledger. Add O'Brien's calf into it and we have 4 players not playing who would be in the starting 22 due to soft tissues.
Agree you can't do much about impact injuries or a knee popping from an awkward twist/landing, but muscle tears and strains are preventable through conditioning/strength and recovery techniques.
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09-05-2022, 09:03 PM
#212
Re: Injury List - 2022
2-3 weeks for a broken collarbone that required surgery seems quick!
Modern medicine eh?
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09-05-2022, 09:52 PM
#213
Re: Injury List - 2022
Ooof, at this point VdM isn't worth persisting with. If he's missing large strings of games from soft tissue injuries at this age then he's never going to develop and they'll only get worse as he gets older.
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09-05-2022, 10:44 PM
#214
Re: Injury List - 2022
Originally Posted by
Testekill
Ooof, at this point VdM isn't worth persisting with. If he's missing large strings of games from soft tissue injuries at this age then he's never going to develop and they'll only get worse as he gets older.
Wait till you hear he’s already 23.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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09-05-2022, 11:30 PM
#215
Re: Injury List - 2022
Any chance they can give us an update on what country JJ is in and how he got trapped there indefinitely?
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10-05-2022, 02:12 AM
#216
Re: Injury List - 2022
Originally Posted by
hujsh
Any chance they can give us an update on what country JJ is in and how he got trapped there indefinitely?
He hurt his calf in the warm up in rd 1.
Out for the year.
(nobody believes the shit our club spins its embarrassing)
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10-05-2022, 05:39 AM
#217
Re: Injury List - 2022
Originally Posted by
Testekill
Ooof, at this point VdM isn't worth persisting with. If he's missing large strings of games from soft tissue injuries at this age then he's never going to develop and they'll only get worse as he gets older.
Yeah, it’s a shame but I’m on the same page. Waste of a list spot.
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10-05-2022, 06:00 AM
#218
Re: Injury List - 2022
Originally Posted by
comrade
Yeah, it’s a shame but I’m on the same page. Waste of a list spot.
Let's wait till Baz re-signs then tap him on the shoulder.
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10-05-2022, 07:01 AM
#219
Re: Injury List - 2022
Originally Posted by
1eyedog
Let's wait till Baz re-signs then tap him on the shoulder.
Good thinking.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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10-05-2022, 10:15 AM
#220
Re: Injury List - 2022
I think the club would want to be very careful about cutting someone loose after a few injuries without exploring every possible option first. It would send a fairly ordinary message to the playing group that if you have some injury issues it's too hard for us and we might just cast you aside. The next young player that has some problems might just ask for a trade to club that they believe will manage them better. It could be a disastrous reputation to carry.
Aside from that this is a young man and his career and it's just a shitty thing to do unless we just can't find a way to get him right. Surely we aren't at that point yet?
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10-05-2022, 10:17 AM
#221
Re: Injury List - 2022
Originally Posted by
MrMahatma
2-3 weeks for a broken collarbone that required surgery seems quick!
Modern medicine eh?
I imagine the surgery is to insert a plate to help it heal quicker and enable an earlier return.
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10-05-2022, 12:17 PM
#222
Re: Injury List - 2022
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
I think the club would want to be very careful about cutting someone loose after a few injuries without exploring every possible option first. It would send a fairly ordinary message to the playing group that if you have some injury issues it's too hard for us and we might just cast you aside. The next young player that has some problems might just ask for a trade to club that they believe will manage them better. It could be a disastrous reputation to carry.
Aside from that this is a young man and his career and it's just a shitty thing to do unless we just can't find a way to get him right. Surely we aren't at that point yet?
Should we consider putting him on a long term injury list to get him right for next year, and then look for a ruckman from the lower comps in the half year draft?
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10-05-2022, 12:26 PM
#223
Re: Injury List - 2022
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Should we consider putting him on a long term injury list to get him right for next year, and then look for a ruckman from the lower comps in the half year draft?
Only the medicos could answer that but to speculate - possibly. You don't want to write his season off unnecessarily but we really do need to try and get him right.
Also forgot to mention that Vanders is contracted until the end of 2023 so he's not going anywhere this year. I think we need to try everything we can between now and the end of next season to fix his issues. Perhaps a hard call will have to be made then if we aren't successful.
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10-05-2022, 12:42 PM
#224
Re: Injury List - 2022
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
Only the medicos could answer that but to speculate - possibly. You don't want to write his season off unnecessarily but we really do need to try and get him right.
Also forgot to mention that Vanders is contracted until the end of 2023 so he's not going anywhere this year. I think we need to try everything we can between now and the end of next season to fix his issues. Perhaps a hard call will have to be made then if we aren't successful.
I'm less concerned about his body and more about his footballing ability... what traits as an AFL player does he have other than being fast? (and quite regularly when he runs fast he pings a hammy!)
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10-05-2022, 01:49 PM
#225
Re: Injury List - 2022
Originally Posted by
MrMahatma
2-3 weeks for a broken collarbone that required surgery seems quick!
Modern medicine eh?
It could be a JJ 2 - 3 weeks so that means Cody will be back in 2023
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