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    Re: “too big a penalty”: 50-metre chaos reigns in first sign of umpire abuse crackdown

    Doug Hawkins. Too funny. My childhood hero. What a legend. When players were real characters.

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    Crazy dumb rule. Who's next the coaches then supporters? So ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog4life View Post
    Crazy dumb rule. Who's next the coaches then supporters? So ridiculous.
    Coaches and officials are already covered by the dissent rule and I don't have a problem with that. The players are playing a brutal game though and need to be cut some slack to respectfully question umpires and feel exasperation at times, that is not dissent.

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    Eddie McGuire just gave a completely unhinged 15 point solution (?) to whatever he believes the issue here to be on Footy Classified, which once again has me assuming this is less a real issue and more a content mine because no coach has been sacked yet and Essendon are shit.

    The only real solution is to pay them more, which is the way that every other industry in the entire world attracts people to undesirable jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Days View Post
    Eddie McGuire just gave a completely unhinged 15 point solution (?) to whatever he believes the issue here to be on Footy Classified, which once again has me assuming this is less a real issue and more a content mine because no coach has been sacked yet and Essendon are shit.

    The only real solution is to pay them more, which is the way that every other industry in the entire world attracts people to undesirable jobs.
    Absolutely. I read at junior level it's 25-50 bucks for a game or something like that. Whatever it is, should be increased.
    Bullying should be treated like any other workplace. If someone is demonstrative in the extreme, they get a warning.
    If the player can't control themselves they should turn away from the umpire, or maintain some distance.
    Poor language towards umpires, again, like any other workplace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Coaches and officials are already covered by the dissent rule and I don't have a problem with that. The players are playing a brutal game though and need to be cut some slack to respectfully question umpires and feel exasperation at times, that is not dissent.
    I was joking in my post however it will be interesting to see how many coaches throw their arms out when a free is given against their team. Chris Scott is a monty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Days View Post
    Eddie McGuire just gave a completely unhinged 15 point solution
    It is left-field but a number of the points he raised have merit.

    The new dissent rule is akin to cracking a walnut with a sledgehammer. The AFEL have absolutely no nuance or feel for common sense.
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    Re: “too big a penalty”: 50-metre chaos reigns in first sign of umpire abuse crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Coaches and officials are already covered by the dissent rule and I don't have a problem with that. The players are playing a brutal game though and need to be cut some slack to respectfully question umpires and feel exasperation at times, that is not dissent.
    Spot on its so dystopian I'm at a loss to understand the logic.
    You can be annoyed, exasperated, flummoxed, perplexed, straight up pissed at a decision and show emotion surely.

    Psychologists will tell you there's an emotion - >behaviour pathway, as long as that behaviour is within reason it shouldn't be punished.

    Holding out your arms in a questioning fashion is not unacceptable behaviour in any civilised society.

    What are they smoking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    Spot on its so dystopian I'm at a loss to understand the logic.
    You can be annoyed, exasperated, flummoxed, perplexed, straight up pissed at a decision and show emotion surely.

    Psychologists will tell you there's an emotion - >behaviour pathway, as long as that behaviour is within reason it shouldn't be punished.

    Holding out your arms in a questioning fashion is not unacceptable behaviour in any civilised society.

    What are they smoking?
    When you put it like that, it is really embarrassing. It makes the AFL look like a nanny state.
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    When you put it like that, it is really embarrassing. It makes the AFL look like a nanny state.
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    Re: “too big a penalty”: 50-metre chaos reigns in first sign of umpire abuse crackdown

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    Spot on its so dystopian I'm at a loss to understand the logic.
    You can be annoyed, exasperated, flummoxed, perplexed, straight up pissed at a decision and show emotion surely.

    Psychologists will tell you there's an emotion - >behaviour pathway, as long as that behaviour is within reason it shouldn't be punished.

    Holding out your arms in a questioning fashion is not unacceptable behaviour in any civilised society.

    What are they smoking?
    I know that this is shifting the narrative a bit, but if the AFL really wanted to change something that just looks terrible, how about they stop the players spitting every three seconds?

    Maybe I'm an old man with an onion tied to my belt yelling at clouds, but to me that's the most vile thing and just looks awful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    Spot on its so dystopian I'm at a loss to understand the logic.
    You can be annoyed, exasperated, flummoxed, perplexed, straight up pissed at a decision and show emotion surely.

    Psychologists will tell you there's an emotion - >behaviour pathway, as long as that behaviour is within reason it shouldn't be punished.

    Holding out your arms in a questioning fashion is not unacceptable behaviour in any civilised society.

    What are they smoking?
    I'm forever holding out my arms in a questioning fashion when arguing with my six year old, thank god we're not on a footy field together...
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    I'm forever holding out my arms in a questioning fashion when arguing with my six year old, thank god we're not on a footy field together...
    Does she give it back to you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daughter of the West View Post
    I'm forever holding out my arms in a questioning fashion when arguing with my six year old, thank god we're not on a footy field together...
    Is she giving you the dissent card ?

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