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Re: Nominate your Persona Non Grata for season 2022.
Originally Posted by
chef
Shaqs mine. Has got all the tools to be a good player but sadly is as soft as a marshmallow. These types just annoy the hell out of me. Stick Zaine in his body and he'd be a gun.
Another out of band nomination. Nice.
The thing I'm most surprised by is the rise and rise of Ryan Gardner.
He was the ultimate whipping boy for ages but has well and truly shed that moniker, hasn't cracked it for a mention or a vote so far!
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Re: Nominate your Persona Non Grata for season 2022.
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
JJ is walking the whipping boy tightrope no doubt. I think his back half of last season and early form this season have been very good, maybe his best since the 2016 season.
Yeah I've been hard on JJ but he did well in the back half of the year. He'll need to produce again, but he's out of the sights for now.
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Re: Nominate your Persona Non Grata for season 2022.
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
JJ is walking the whipping boy tightrope no doubt. I think his back half of last season and early form this season have been very good, maybe his best since the 2016 season.
I reckon when he came second in the Sutton Medal in 2017 he was pretty good and again in 2018 when he came seventh, or fourth in 2019 (he came tenth in 2016). The few weeks where he struggled to shake a tag without any real help from his team mates probably sticks in the minds of supporters more than it should, but what can you do?
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Re: Nominate your Persona Non Grata for season 2022.
Originally Posted by
jeemak
I reckon when he came second in the Sutton Medal in 2017 he was pretty good and again in 2018 when he came seventh, or fourth in 2019 (he came tenth in 2016). The few weeks where he struggled to shake a tag without any real help from his team mates probably sticks in the minds of supporters more than it should, but what can you do?
I like JJ, I think he is a valuable player.
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Re: Nominate your Persona Non Grata for season 2022.
Originally Posted by
jeemak
I reckon when he came second in the Sutton Medal in 2017 he was pretty good and again in 2018 when he came seventh, or fourth in 2019 (he came tenth in 2016). The few weeks where he struggled to shake a tag without any real help from his team mates probably sticks in the minds of supporters more than it should, but what can you do?
I've read this before and I keep forgetting. Thanks for the reminder.
All those years homogenise in my bad memory.
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Re: Nominate your Persona Non Grata for season 2022.
Originally Posted by
bornadog
I like JJ, I think he is a valuable player.
Same here, he can still be a very good contributor for us.
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Re: Nominate your Persona Non Grata for season 2022.
I go along with the nomination for Jamarra Ugle-Hagen, Honestly speaking, unless on a lead, he never seems to entirely commit himself to bodlining the ball. And he will be even more odds on for "whipping boy" notoriety if his form in the twos doesn't warrant promotion. His casual attack on the ball, even in the "ressies", does not fill me with confidence that he will fulfill his potential.
The truth will set you free,
but first it will piss you off. ... Gloria Steinem.
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Re: Nominate your Persona Non Grata for season 2022.
Originally Posted by
Jeanette54
I go along with the nomination for Jamarra Ugle-Hagen, Honestly speaking, unless on a lead, he never seems to entirely commit himself to bodlining the ball. And he will be even more odds on for "whipping boy" notoriety if his form in the twos doesn't warrant promotion. His casual attack on the ball, even in the "ressies", does not fill me with confidence that he will fulfill his potential.
If he was pick 35 would you have the same expectation?
I get it. But I don't at the same time.
Name another player from his draft year we took and see how they're travelling I guess is my point.(it's only Bendendo)
Probably flying under the radar.
But totally valid point you're making. He needs to show incremental progression so you're entitled to your thoughts J54!
Disclaimer I'm Marra's sponsor and in no way know the guy but have spent some time with him and his parents and he is an elite worker. .
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Re: Nominate your Persona Non Grata for season 2022.
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
If he was pick 35 would you have the same expectation?
I get it. But I don't at the same time.
Name another player from his draft year we took and see how they're travelling I guess is my point.(it's only Bendendo)
Probably flying under the radar.
But totally valid point you're making. He needs to show incremental progression
Disclaimer I'm Marra's sponsor and in no way know the guy but have spent some time with him and his parents and he is an elite worker. .
Marra is on the tally board xD
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Re: Nominate your Persona Non Grata for season 2022.
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Disclaimer I'm Marra's sponsor and in no way know the guy but have spent some time with him and his parents and he is an elite worker. .
Thanks for taking the time to reply GG. Your disclaimer means you are coming from a position of knowledge. And that gives credence to your comment. Obviously I wish him all the best for this year and a long, bright future with the Doggies.
The truth will set you free,
but first it will piss you off. ... Gloria Steinem.
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Re: Nominate your Persona Non Grata for season 2022.
Originally Posted by
Jeanette54
Thanks for taking the time to reply GG. Your disclaimer means you are coming from a position of knowledge. And that gives credence to your comment. Obviously I wish him all the best for this year and a long, bright future with the Doggies.
Is there a more mature forum on earth xD (apart from that guy on GF day (where's happy days?))?
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Re: Nominate your Persona Non Grata for season 2022.
Rhylee West. Barely rates a mention so is already persona non grata… Im not sure he figures in enough games to actually win this award, but burning opportunities through over enthusiasm (and a bit of carelessness) and maybe with a sprinkle of aggro from his much beloved father could see him climb the ranks.
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Re: Nominate your Persona Non Grata for season 2022.
Originally Posted by
Go_Dogs
Rhylee West. Barely rates a mention so is already persona non grata… Im not sure he figures in enough games to actually win this award, but burning opportunities through over enthusiasm (and a bit of carelessness) and maybe with a sprinkle of aggro from his much beloved father could see him climb the ranks.
TBH I'd be surprised if he doesn't seek a trade.
There are probably some very similar types (Riley Garcia) that are just ahead of him on the pecking order.
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Re: Nominate your Persona Non Grata for season 2022.
Originally Posted by
Go_Dogs
Rhylee West. Barely rates a mention so is already persona non grata… Im not sure he figures in enough games to actually win this award, but burning opportunities through over enthusiasm (and a bit of carelessness) and maybe with a sprinkle of aggro from his much beloved father could see him climb the ranks.
Great call. Is easily the player i am least positive on, just figured he isn't close enough to playing for me to put him up for this award.
I should leave it alone but you're not right
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Re: Nominate your Persona Non Grata for season 2022.
Wednesday morning leaderboard update..... !
It's too close to call at this stage - perennial whipees Zaine Cordy and Mitch Hannan neck and neck on 4 votes each followed closely by the silver fox big Stef Martin on 3.
We've had a swathe of out of band nominations, you guys are very expansive whippers ! (or i stuffed up the poll)
- Laith Vandermeer
- Lachie Hunter's kicking
- Norm himself Jason Johannisen
- Matt Suckling (I feel Easternwest orchestrated this)
- The entire match committee !
- Josh Schache
- Jamarra Ugle-Hagen
- Rhylee West
Maybe we will see a winner from outside the poll?
Voting closes in 3 days - get those votes in woofers !