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19-09-2022, 04:59 PM
#1591
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
hujsh
Does it even need to be North? There are nine teams between us and North in the PSD. Couldn't we just draft him before Brisbane if need be?
This would be the most crazy ass pick of all time.
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19-09-2022, 05:13 PM
#1592
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Suggestion on Twitter which sounds reasonable
* Brisbane receive: Josh Dunkley + pick 37 (653 points) + pick 65 (90 points)
* Bulldogs receive: pick 15 + 2023 1st round pick + 2023 second round pick
I get it... but also, 2 or 3, or whatever OK players are not as good as one excellent one. So, shouldn't we be expecting at least something GOOD - IE: A top 10 pick, as part of any package? 2 late firsts and a second, where we're also giving them back our 3rd round and change, doesn't make sense to me.
Do we need points next year for anyone?
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19-09-2022, 05:14 PM
#1593
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Suggestion on Twitter which sounds reasonable
* Brisbane receive: Josh Dunkley + pick 37 (653 points) + pick 65 (90 points)
* Bulldogs receive: pick 15 + 2023 1st round pick + 2023 second round pick
Can the Lions match a pick one (2400) with out their first rounder? Be difficult.
I know we had to move on 14 (Treloar trade?) to get JUH.
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19-09-2022, 05:14 PM
#1594
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Suggestion on Twitter which sounds reasonable
* Brisbane receive: Josh Dunkley + pick 37 (653 points) + pick 65 (90 points)
* Bulldogs receive: pick 15 + 2023 1st round pick + 2023 second round pick
Pick 37 (the North Pick) is worth 483 points, 653 points is our 2nd rounder.
It's close to what I suggested.
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19-09-2022, 05:19 PM
#1595
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Pick 37 (the North Pick) is worth 483 points, 653 points is our 2nd rounder.
It's close to what I suggested.
Where would you put Dunkley in a basic trade G? I would say now, has to be 5-10.
If we use 5 for eg they need to stump up something in draft points around the 1900 mark.
Their first 15 (1112) and a future first at a guess around the same would be fine by me with something coming back from us.
I just don't know how they do it with Ashcroft in the mix.
Are they going to have to trade someone of value out?
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19-09-2022, 05:25 PM
#1596
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Suggestion on Twitter which sounds reasonable
* Brisbane receive: Josh Dunkley + pick 37 (653 points) + pick 65 (90 points)
* Bulldogs receive: pick 15 + 2023 1st round pick + 2023 second round pick
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Pick 37 (the North Pick) is worth 483 points, 653 points is our 2nd rounder.
It's close to what I suggested.
This is way over my head, but if Brisbane go into a draft points deficit which pushes back their 2023 draft position and we accept this proposal doesn't this result in our draft position going back also?
Surely accepting any future draft picks from Brisbane is a huge risk as the whole Ashcroft and Fletcher father son scenerio's are unknown until draft night.
For mine; we need to ensure any trades with Brisbane are not linked to any future picks.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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19-09-2022, 05:33 PM
#1597
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Where would you put Dunkley in a basic trade G? I would say now, has to be 5-10.
If we use 5 for eg they need to stump up something in draft points around the 1900 mark.
Their first 15 (1112) and a future first at a guess around the same would be fine by me with something coming back from us.
I just don't know how they do it with Ashcroft in the mix.
Are they going to have to trade someone of value out?
Dunkley is a top 10 pick but Brisbane don't currently have a lot to work with but that will change.
They are trading out McStay who Collingwood can help them with a couple of picks in the 3rd round and the points will exceed 700.
That would mean McStay is a mid 2nd rounder in terms of points which seems about right.
Brisbane could also look to trade a player back to us. Mofra has suggested Ballarat boy Lohmann who was an early 2nd rounder last year. A natural half forward might have some appeal. Mof also suggested that we have been interested in Payne who is a key defender.
If a needs based player is somewhat interested in heading to us it could be worth considering.
By the way it's Ashcroft and Fletcher they need to cover. I'd love to use Brisbane's first round pick this year to bid on Fletcher so that they pay full value but I couldn't see that happening.
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19-09-2022, 05:33 PM
#1598
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
azabob
This is way over my head, but if Brisbane go into a draft points deficit which pushes back their 2023 draft position and we accept this proposal doesn't this result in our draft position going back also?
Surely accepting any future draft picks from Brisbane is a huge risk as the whole Ashcroft and Fletcher father son scenerio's are unknown until draft night.
For mine; we need to ensure any trades with Brisbane are not linked to any future picks.
Future picks don't work that way. If they are traded to us, they become ours like any other pick.
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19-09-2022, 05:41 PM
#1599
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
MrMahatma
I get it... but also, 2 or 3, or whatever OK players are not as good as one excellent one. So, shouldn't we be expecting at least something GOOD - IE: A top 10 pick, as part of any package? 2 late firsts and a second, where we're also giving them back our 3rd round and change, doesn't make sense to me.
Do we need points next year for anyone?
How do Brisbane get a top 10 pick?
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19-09-2022, 05:45 PM
#1600
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
bornadog
How do Brisbane get a top 10 pick?
They trade Cameron to...someone...(it's us)
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19-09-2022, 05:48 PM
#1601
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Dunkley is a top 10 pick but Brisbane don't currently have a lot to work with but that will change.
They are trading out McStay who Collingwood can help them with a couple of picks in the 3rd round and the points will exceed 700.
That would mean McStay is a mid 2nd rounder in terms of points which seems about right.
Brisbane could also look to trade a player back to us. Mofra has suggested Ballarat boy Lohmann who was an early 2nd rounder last year. A natural half forward might have some appeal. Mof also suggested that we have been interested in Payne who is a key defender.
If a needs based player is somewhat interested in heading to us it could be worth considering.
By the way it's Ashcroft
and Fletcher they need to cover. I'd love to use Brisbane's first round pick this year to bid on Fletcher so that they pay full value but I couldn't see that happening.
Isn't McStay a free agent. Collingwood don't give up any picks and Brisbane get whatever is determined fair (?) compensation.
Personally I think we should be asking for a player.
Starcevich as a defender would be on my shopping list, but would also ask about Berry.
A best 22 player plus their first pick is my starting point.
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19-09-2022, 05:55 PM
#1602
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Joe
Isn't McStay a free agent. Collingwood don't give up any picks and Brisbane get whatever is determined fair (?) compensation.
Yep, the thought seems to be that McStay will get them a second round pick (currently 34) as compensation.
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19-09-2022, 05:58 PM
#1603
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Rocco Jones
Future picks don't work that way. If they are traded to us, they become ours like any other pick.
They are still tied to the ladder position of the original team though. But I believe you are correct in that they wouldn't move due to a Brisbane points deficit as they are no longer their picks.
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19-09-2022, 06:10 PM
#1604
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
They are still tied to the ladder position of the original team though. But I believe you are correct in that they wouldn't move due to a Brisbane points deficit as they are no longer their picks.
Yep. That’s right.
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19-09-2022, 06:18 PM
#1605
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Rocco Jones
Yep. That’s right.
So if the Lions have a remarkable fall like the Demons of 2019 we get a top 5 pick if we get their future first.
The rooting thread is going to be in over drive!