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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Just having a look at our back line options for next season and despite the depth we really do need to look at a smaller lock down defender.

    Duryea Jones Gardner
    Richards Keath Dale
    Daniel Williams, Cordy
    Darcy, O'Brien, Cleary
    Crozier, Khamis, Raak

    15 players seems a bit of oversupply but it's not a particularly strong list in terms of quality.

    Is there an argument to be made that we should add more defenders to our playing list?
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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Just having a look at our back line options for next season and despite the depth we really do need to look at a smaller lock down defender.

    Duryea Jones Gardner
    Richards Keath Dale
    Daniel Williams, Cordy
    Darcy, O'Brien, Cleary
    Crozier, Khamis, Raak

    15 players seems a bit of oversupply but it's not a particularly strong list in terms of quality.

    Is there an argument to be made that we should add more defenders to our playing list?
    We need 1 quality KPD and 1 quality lock down small defender.

    Cordy and Crozier can go.

    For instance, IF we were able to get Sam Collins (Cordy out)….massive upgrade
    If we could get a quality lock down defender (Harry Cunningham type ???) and crozier out…upgrade

    Jones, Collins, Gardner and Keath for 3 positions
    Darcy, khamis, O’Brien, Cleary, raak as back ups

    Duryea and Cunningham??? For 1 position

    Richards, Dale, Daniel, Williams for 2 positions
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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Just having a look at our back line options for next season and despite the depth we really do need to look at a smaller lock down defender.

    Duryea Jones Gardner
    Richards Keath Dale
    Daniel Williams, Cordy
    Darcy, O'Brien, Cleary
    Crozier, Khamis, Raak

    15 players seems a bit of oversupply but it's not a particularly strong list in terms of quality.

    Is there an argument to be made that we should add more defenders to our playing list?
    To lay it out slightly differently...
    KPD: Jones, Gardner, Keath, Cordy, Darcy
    3rd tall/Interceptors: O'Brien, Khamis, Cleary (Richards)
    Offensive half backs: Dale, Daniel, Richards, Williams, JJ, Treloar
    Lockdown: Duryea

    I'm not really sure where Croz and Raak fit.

    It makes it pretty clear to me that we need more actual defenders, which will also help with our structure behind the ball which is often very loose.

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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sedat View Post
    Rowe's numbers are not bad considering he has played in a rubbish team and in the graveyard position of HFF/FF. Joining a team with a better midfield that will provide greater supply into F50, he should get far more opportunities to impact than he did at the Crows. It's not a sexy sell but I don't mind this selection, he's clearly a natural forward and a natural footballer.
    He jointly won the 2020 SA goal kicking award in 2020 with 38 goals so knows where the goals are. A good feat..

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    I'm wavering on Rowe but come on he is like 20x the footballer Hooper was. Rowe had 21 and 2 goals in a really good game in round 1 this year. Hooper wouldn't have had 21 possessions in whole seasons.
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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by jazzadogs View Post
    To lay it out slightly differently...
    KPD: Jones, Gardner, Keath, Cordy, Darcy
    3rd tall/Interceptors: O'Brien, Khamis, Cleary (Richards)
    Offensive half backs: Dale, Daniel, Richards, Williams, JJ, Treloar
    Lockdown: Duryea

    I'm not really sure where Croz and Raak fit.

    It makes it pretty clear to me that we need more actual defenders, which will also help with our structure behind the ball which is often very loose.
    Despite his height. I’d probably have Darcy as a 3rd tall / interceptor at the moment. Not sure he’s gonna be matching up on your Hawkins / Lynch / Cameron types

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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by jazzadogs View Post
    To lay it out slightly differently...
    KPD: Jones, Gardner, Keath, Cordy, Darcy
    3rd tall/Interceptors: O'Brien, Khamis, Cleary (Richards)
    Offensive half backs: Dale, Daniel, Richards, Williams, JJ, Treloar
    Lockdown: Duryea

    I'm not really sure where Croz and Raak fit.

    It makes it pretty clear to me that we need more actual defenders, which will also help with our structure behind the ball which is often very loose.
    Do we move Daniel to a wing or HFF and use his elite kicking to feed the forwards and replace him with a lockdown defender.
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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by jazzadogs View Post
    To lay it out slightly differently...
    KPD: Jones, Gardner, Keath, Cordy, Darcy
    3rd tall/Interceptors: O'Brien, Khamis, Cleary (Richards)
    Offensive half backs: Dale, Daniel, Richards, Williams, JJ, Treloar
    Lockdown: Duryea

    I'm not really sure where Croz and Raak fit.

    It makes it pretty clear to me that we need more actual defenders, which will also help with our structure behind the ball which is often very loose.
    It's why I wouldn't rule out adding to the back line via the trade or draft periods but to me smaller defender and a young KPD would be the priorities not another mid sized attacking player.

    If Collins was genuinely available then perhaps Cordy misses out but I suggest given we have made him an offer we aren't that hopeful of grabbing a KPD via the trade period.
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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Underdog View Post
    Despite his height. I’d probably have Darcy as a 3rd tall / interceptor at the moment. Not sure he’s gonna be matching up on your Hawkins / Lynch / Cameron types
    I agree, Darcy is at least another 12 months away from being able to be regarded as a KPD.
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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Do we move Daniel to a wing or HFF and use his elite kicking to feed the forwards and replace him with a lockdown defender.
    It's tempting isn't it? I get the feeling we are reluctant to make that change but maybe the new midfield coach will want to add him to the midfield.
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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Just having a look at our back line options for next season and despite the depth we really do need to look at a smaller lock down defender.

    Duryea Jones Gardner
    Richards Keath Dale
    Daniel Williams, Cordy
    Darcy, O'Brien, Cleary
    Crozier, Khamis, Raak

    15 players seems a bit of oversupply but it's not a particularly strong list in terms of quality.

    Is there an argument to be made that we should add more defenders to our playing list?
    What about Scott being trained as a lock down small defender? He has some good points about his game. My big knock on him is that he doesn't find the ball enough but a new role like this would take care of that.
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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    I agree, Darcy is at least another 12 months away from being able to be regarded as a KPD.
    Disagree. I was really impressed with him and I think he will prove a quick learner too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F'scary View Post
    Disagree. I was really impressed with him and I think he will prove a quick learner too.
    So he's good to go and play on the more genuine key forwards in the competition?
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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by F'scary View Post
    What about Scott being trained as a lock down small defender? He has some good points about his game. My big knock on him is that he doesn't find the ball enough but a new role like this would take care of that.
    Not every one has to get the ball 25 times a game.
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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by F'scary View Post
    What about Scott being trained as a lock down small defender? He has some good points about his game. My big knock on him is that he doesn't find the ball enough but a new role like this would take care of that.
    Didn’t we try that one out? Went horrendously from what I can remember.

    We’re gonna need Scott as a wingman, especially if Hunter is actually leaving.
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