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04-10-2022, 06:05 PM
#1996
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
hujsh
good find
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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04-10-2022, 06:06 PM
#1997
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
hujsh
Our first ever draft pick was Neil Craig!
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04-10-2022, 06:10 PM
#1998
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
bornadog
2021 - 6
2020 - 12
2019 - 5
2018 - 10
2017- 9
2016- 7
2015 - 8
total - 57
Yes always players that we may hold on to one year too long - but that is a matter of opinion.
Does that include guys who get delisted and then re-rookied?
On the surface, the turn over seems fair enough. And you'll always have guys like Crozier who is now depth and more or less done. Only there for an extreme injury crisis really.
Meanwhile... on the post a few above... Zane being only 26 makes sense given how young he was in 2016, but gee he moves like someone 6 years older... which, coincidentally, we're replacing him with someone 6 years older!
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04-10-2022, 06:11 PM
#1999
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
MrMahatma
Does that include guys who get delisted and then re-rookied?
On the surface, the turn over seems fair enough. And you'll always have guys like Crozier who is now depth and more or less done. Only there for an extreme injury crisis really.
Meanwhile... on the post a few above... Zane being only 26 makes sense given how young he was in 2016, but gee he moves like someone 6 years older... which, coincidentally, we're replacing him with someone 6 years older!
It might, I just did a quick sum off afl.com.au
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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04-10-2022, 06:25 PM
#2000
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
If Cordy joins Saints, what compensation is reasonable?
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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04-10-2022, 06:27 PM
#2001
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
bornadog
If Cordy joins Saints, what compensation is reasonable?
I don't think he will trigger anything for us.
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04-10-2022, 06:28 PM
#2002
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I don't think he will trigger anything for us.
Why?
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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04-10-2022, 06:34 PM
#2003
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
bornadog
If Cordy joins Saints, what compensation is reasonable?
How much should we pay them?
I kid I kid.
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04-10-2022, 06:35 PM
#2004
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
I wonder. Jones 3 year contract, older, on a pretty low wage and they got given a 3rd rounder. Cordy would have to be on a 2 year contract at least on pretty similar coin. Maybe we get the pick after?
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04-10-2022, 06:45 PM
#2005
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
hujsh
I wonder. Jones 3 year contract, older, on a pretty low wage and they got given a 3rd rounder. Cordy would have to be on a 2 year contract at least on pretty similar coin. Maybe we get the pick after?
They would cancel each other out. No compo.
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04-10-2022, 07:01 PM
#2006
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
They would cancel each other out. No compo.
booo
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04-10-2022, 07:02 PM
#2007
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
The fact that we signed Jones and didn't hold off indicates that we were confident that Cordy will either stay, or his free agency offer wouldn't trigger compensation.
On Cordy, in terms of his own career, St Kilda would appear a better destination based on opportunity. It's hard to see him playing ahead of Jones, Keath, Gardner, Darcy, Khamis and O'Brien.
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04-10-2022, 07:05 PM
#2008
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Swoop
The fact that we signed Jones and didn't hold off indicates that we were confident that Cordy will either stay, or his free agency offer wouldn't trigger compensation.
On Cordy, in terms of his own career, St Kilda would appear a better destination based on opportunity. It's hard to see him playing ahead of Jones, Keath, Gardner, Darcy, Khamis and O'Brien.
We have more depth so the opportunities for Cordy might be better at the Saints.
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04-10-2022, 08:26 PM
#2009
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
hujsh
I believe when you brought this up last time there were asterix's against a few of those numbers with rookies being elevated etc. I'd be interested in how many players we've drafted that weren't rookies being elevated
Yeah I remember that. For example this is 2020.
Ben Cavarra (del)*
Tory Dickson (ret)
Billy Gowers (del)
Fergus Greene (del)
Will Hayes (del)*
Sam Lloyd (ret)
Brad Lynch (del)
Callum Porter (del)
Roarke Smith (del)*
Matt Suckling (del)
Jackson Trengove (del)
Lachie Young (trd)
So 3 of the 12 went to rookie list and I'm happy that we cut 8 of the other 9.
2021 we really needed to cut deeper.
Ben Cavarra (del)
Will Hayes (del)
Lin Jong (ret)
Patrick Lipinski (trd)
Easton Wood (ret)
Lewis Young (trd)
AFL make it surprisingly easy to check via the easily editable link
https://www.afl.com.au/news/retireme...elistings/2021
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04-10-2022, 08:34 PM
#2010
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Topdog
Yeah I remember that. For example this is 2020.
Ben Cavarra (del)*
Tory Dickson (ret)
Billy Gowers (del)
Fergus Greene (del)
Will Hayes (del)*
Sam Lloyd (ret)
Brad Lynch (del)
Callum Porter (del)
Roarke Smith (del)*
Matt Suckling (del)
Jackson Trengove (del)
Lachie Young (trd)
So 3 of the 12 went to rookie list and I'm happy that we cut 8 of the other 9.
2021 we really needed to cut deeper.
Ben Cavarra (del)
Will Hayes (del)
Lin Jong (ret)
Patrick Lipinski (trd)
Easton Wood (ret)
Lewis Young (trd)
AFL make it surprisingly easy to check via the easily editable link
https://www.afl.com.au/news/retireme...elistings/2021
We should probably make a contract thread or something so we can have easy access to this kind of stuff.
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