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17-10-2022, 03:05 PM
#2476
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Good decisions.
We're finally cutting deep enough.
Suspect we keep Martin which is genuinely ridiculous, but everything else we've done is spot on.
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17-10-2022, 03:09 PM
#2477
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
Good decisions.
We're finally cutting deep enough.
Suspect we keep Martin which is genuinely ridiculous, but everything else we've done is spot on.
We will keep Martin until we know for sure that someone better is available, at which time he'll slip off quietly in the night.
"I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."
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17-10-2022, 03:14 PM
#2478
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
SquirrelGrip
We will keep Martin until we know for sure that someone better is available, at which time he'll slip off quietly in the night.
I wonder if the club does give him a year and if he gets injured next year the plan is for him to retire before the mid season draft and grab the best performing state ruck we can get for the rest of 2023?
That said, I disagree, and he should’ve announced his retirement by now.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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17-10-2022, 03:50 PM
#2479
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
I wonder if the club does give him a year and if he gets injured next year the plan is for him to retire before the mid season draft and grab the best performing state ruck we can get for the rest of 2023?
That said, I disagree, and he should’ve announced his retirement by now.
Majority of woof thought he would retire mid season during 2022 as he was injured and take a pick in the mid season draft.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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17-10-2022, 03:55 PM
#2480
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Since I’ve been back thinking about footy, Bruce to KPD is something I keep coming back to. He’s a great set shot, and that’s missed. But if the forward line is kicking enough goals then it’s fine. The great thing is the ability to make him a swing man. If we need him forward then he offers something other than flicking saw Lew Young forward in passed years to limited effect. If a KPF is having a quiet game, Bevo can move things around. Or if Tim’s on the bench, Lobb rucks and matchups permitting you can move Bruce forward. If Darcy is in the same side, they can be interchangeable and if the matchups aren’t right, there’s enough tall marking KPPs to move around to try to get it advantageous.
It’s certainly worth having a look at over the preseason to see if it works.
Originally Posted by
jazzadogs
Bruce is either competing with Keath and O'Brien for a spot down back, or Lobb/JUH/Naughton for a spot up forward. I know where I'd be aiming for games.
If Keath can return to being the interceptor gun backman (or better next year than O’Brien) he was at the crows (eliminating O’Brien), and Jones takes the best forward. I wonder if Bruce can do a job on the bigger, stronger gorilla types (or resting, lumbering ruck) with strength and mature experience? That’s a handy and versatile three KPD’s if it works, with Gardner also in the mix too.
It might be for naught, but if they can get this working that Jones, Bruce & Keath with Gardner (Bruce can play swing man too). The apparent 205cm+ super tall afel quality ability mix of Tim, Lobb & Darcy. With them rotating through the forward line with Naughton & Marra.
If the theory works, and limited injuries permitting, the ‘talls’ take care of themselves. What’s then the game plan to give the backs the best chance of success and what’s the game plan for giving the forwards the best chance for success? A team with Bont, Jack, Libba, Treloar & Smith should win enough of the footy. How does that factor in to who to play on the wings? Who’s the best runners that are prepared to get back and help defend, but also get dangerous going forward? The wings seem like the weakness in the Deathstar. We’re big and imposing in the key personnel, but the wingers could end up deciding the success of moves like Lobb, Jones and Bruce back and how successful the forward craft is rewarded.
Can Daniel be spared to go and play wing? He fits two way running, defending and excellent forward entries?
JJ. Pace, but can he defend well enough and can he hit enough targets going forward.
Roarke. A blue collar gives everything he can, even with limitations.
VDM. The little I’ve seen I don’t like. He was drafted as a back flanker. Move him up?
McLean. Does he have the knees to carry the workload?
Bailey Williams. The preseason he trained as a mid was a bust, but can he play wing on the outside?
Scott. Can he do it?
Crozier seems lost to footy now. He was a forward and back at Freo. Since there’s little to lose, does he get thrown a wing at VFL level like Schache was thrown into defence?
Do we need a wing specialist? Or can we rotate one wing in game between Dale, Daniel, Williams &/or Richards?
Can anyone in particular offer a real point of difference to the mix in the middle of the ground?
Who do you trust most to run both ways all game?
Who do you trust most in the defensive half?
Who do you trust most to offer it ‘lace out’ to Naughton, Marra, Lobb and co?
Or are there DFA’s from wings (ie Phillips) or guys that didn’t hold down inside midfield roles (ie Narkle) that are worth punting the ‘last spot on our list’ on?
Are there gun wingers at state level that deserve a shot through the rookie draft?
Lots of questions I know.
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17-10-2022, 04:12 PM
#2481
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
More of an In Bruges guy?
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17-10-2022, 04:14 PM
#2482
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Here we go then! 6 spots open. How do we fill them with our picks? Are we a chance to split a pick?
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17-10-2022, 04:19 PM
#2483
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
Here we go then! 6 spots open. How do we fill them with our picks? Are we a chance to split a pick?
Giddy up.
7 off main list - 2 in = 5 spots
1 off rookie list = 1 spot (currently)
4 picks/spots open to the draft (possibly trading in a future pick into this draft)
1 DFA
1 rookie draft pick
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17-10-2022, 04:20 PM
#2484
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
These are the best list decisions our club has made in a long, long time.
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17-10-2022, 04:26 PM
#2485
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
How do we trade up to Sheezel ! He's my #1. I've been watching the Vic Metro v WA.
Darcy Jones WA and Sheezel VIC M both super stars.
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17-10-2022, 04:35 PM
#2486
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
Good decisions.
We're finally cutting deep enough.
Suspect we keep Martin which is genuinely ridiculous, but everything else we've done is spot on.
Mostly I think we get it pretty right
Occasionally we are too loyal - but Im sure that generates plenty of positivity amongst players knowing we will give them a real shot to make it, and wont turf them away at 30
Some see it as lacking ruthlessness, but the other way of viewing is that we stand by our people and Im sure that creates significant benefit for the club
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17-10-2022, 04:46 PM
#2487
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
I think we have made the right decisions and after a difficult trade periods we know have an idea of the spots we need to fill.
Parker just never looked up to speed even at the state level and based on what I saw it wasn't really worth persevering with him.
Butler is probably a harsh decision but he didn't make enough of an impression to get another season.
We all love Wallis but he wasn't going to play much of a role for us next season so the tough call needed to be made.
Martin did the right thing by retiring.
Schache, Hunter, Cordy and Dunkley have moved on
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17-10-2022, 04:50 PM
#2488
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Does anyone think it's a possible scenario that if we didn't get Lobb through the trade period we might have convinced Martin into staying?
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17-10-2022, 04:54 PM
#2489
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Does anyone think it's a possible scenario that if we didn't get Lobb through the trade period we might have convinced Martin into staying?
Most definitely. I thought we were still heading down this path.
If we didn't get Lobb, I could've lived with keeping Martin for another year.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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17-10-2022, 04:57 PM
#2490
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
azabob
Most definitely. I thought we were still heading down this path.
If we didn't get Lobb, I could've lived with keeping Martin for another year.
We still needed another ruckman so I wonder what if we are going to address it or not.
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