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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Is it really surprising that we'd be prepared to take a few more options to the draft given that we aren't hamstrung by needing points for securing top talent via priority access, and have actually been able to see talent exposed this year in the junior competitions?

    A few on here have been on about it - particularly Aza (endlessly, Jesus he's annoying), but it seems like the logical thing to have happened given the circumstances.

    I guess that's why I won't be kissing Sam Power's arse until he lands the talent.
    Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.

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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro Sanchez View Post
    Cheers. I choose my words very carefully ��
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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Nice one from Lachie

    Super post from Lachie.
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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro Sanchez View Post
    Is Darcy Jones related to our Jones? Gut feel is yes...
    Pedro! Now there's a blast from the past.
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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    Is it really surprising that we'd be prepared to take a few more options to the draft given that we aren't hamstrung by needing points for securing top talent via priority access, and have actually been able to see talent exposed this year in the junior competitions?

    A few on here have been on about it - particularly Aza (endlessly, Jesus he's annoying), but it seems like the logical thing to have happened given the circumstances.

    I guess that's why I won't be kissing Sam Power's arse until he lands the talent.
    Of the players to come off the list who would've you kept?
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    Is it really surprising that we'd be prepared to take a few more options to the draft given that we aren't hamstrung by needing points for securing top talent via priority access, and have actually been able to see talent exposed this year in the junior competitions?

    A few on here have been on about it - particularly Aza (endlessly, Jesus he's annoying), but it seems like the logical thing to have happened given the circumstances.

    I guess that's why I won't be kissing Sam Power's arse until he lands the talent.
    If you look at who's coming out of contract at the end of next year and who has questionable form we might not done enough now.
    We should have a lot of room in the TPP to perhaps pay one of those players out now. We have more than enough fringe players.

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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    Super post from Lachie.
    Kinda sad it had to come to this
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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    Is it really surprising that we'd be prepared to take a few more options to the draft given that we aren't hamstrung by needing points for securing top talent via priority access, and have actually been able to see talent exposed this year in the junior competitions?

    A few on here have been on about it - particularly Aza (endlessly, Jesus he's annoying), but it seems like the logical thing to have happened given the circumstances.

    I guess that's why I won't be kissing Sam Power's arse until he lands the talent.
    Not really Sam's job to 'land the talent' at the draft though is it? My understanding would be that Sam is responsible for working with the coach to identify list gaps, addressing them where possible through trades. He then works with the recruiting scouts/team on the remaining gaps, and potential options to fill them - which may mean acquiring better/different picks.

    But he's not responsible for picking the right players - he just gets the recruiters the opportunity, and tells them what types we need.

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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by jazzadogs View Post
    Not really Sam's job to 'land the talent' at the draft though is it? My understanding would be that Sam is responsible for working with the coach to identify list gaps, addressing them where possible through trades. He then works with the recruiting scouts/team on the remaining gaps, and potential options to fill them - which may mean acquiring better/different picks.

    But he's not responsible for picking the right players - he just gets the recruiters the opportunity, and tells them what types we need.
    Yep, this is Dom Milesi's time to shine.

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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Kinda sad it had to come to this
    Very much so. I would like to learn a bit more about the decision to value him at about pick 50 and trade him thus. To me, his finish to the season indicated likely solid best 22 next year.
    Officially on the Bus-wagon

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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Very classy finish by Hunter.
    For whatever reason the last 2-3 years haven't worked out for him but a 10 year servant to the club and 1 of not many that played in a winning GF

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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by F'scary View Post
    Very much so. I would like to learn a bit more about the decision to value him at about pick 50 and trade him thus. To me, his finish to the season indicated likely solid best 22 next year.
    Can only imagine that the off field problems that would have been surfaced to other clubs are severe, because two years ago he'd be worth the same as Dunkley in a trade. That or we've just made a meal of it, the off field stuff is fixable, and he goes on to play another 100 games for Melbourne at his 2016-20 elite level.
    'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    Of the players to come off the list who would've you kept?
    I may have kept Wallis, but in doing so you actually have to play him and even though he's probably good enough for a role as a 22-28 player and would be called upon throughout the year, if you're playing him you're not developing someone else.

    So overall I don't have an issue with who we let go.
    Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.

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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by jazzadogs View Post
    Not really Sam's job to 'land the talent' at the draft though is it? My understanding would be that Sam is responsible for working with the coach to identify list gaps, addressing them where possible through trades. He then works with the recruiting scouts/team on the remaining gaps, and potential options to fill them - which may mean acquiring better/different picks.

    But he's not responsible for picking the right players - he just gets the recruiters the opportunity, and tells them what types we need.
    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Yep, this is Dom Milesi's time to shine.
    I guess we better tell the Bulldogs because they seem to think it is his job.

    https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/t...ment/sam-power
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    Re: List Management thread (For 2022)

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    I guess we better tell the Bulldogs because they seem to think it is his job.

    https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/t...ment/sam-power
    Recruiting reports to him, but Dom is the one one the ground checking out the players
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