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18-10-2022, 01:11 AM
#2521
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Is it really surprising that we'd be prepared to take a few more options to the draft given that we aren't hamstrung by needing points for securing top talent via priority access, and have actually been able to see talent exposed this year in the junior competitions?
A few on here have been on about it - particularly Aza (endlessly, Jesus he's annoying), but it seems like the logical thing to have happened given the circumstances.
I guess that's why I won't be kissing Sam Power's arse until he lands the talent.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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18-10-2022, 01:11 AM
#2522
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Pedro Sanchez
Cheers. I choose my words very carefully ��
Welcome back Pedro.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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18-10-2022, 01:12 AM
#2523
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Nice one from Lachie
Super post from Lachie.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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18-10-2022, 08:36 AM
#2524
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Pedro Sanchez
Is Darcy Jones related to our Jones? Gut feel is yes...
Pedro! Now there's a blast from the past.
"It's over. It's all over."
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18-10-2022, 08:41 AM
#2525
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Is it really surprising that we'd be prepared to take a few more options to the draft given that we aren't hamstrung by needing points for securing top talent via priority access, and have actually been able to see talent exposed this year in the junior competitions?
A few on here have been on about it - particularly Aza (endlessly, Jesus he's annoying), but it seems like the logical thing to have happened given the circumstances.
I guess that's why I won't be kissing Sam Power's arse until he lands the talent.
Of the players to come off the list who would've you kept?
More of an In Bruges guy?
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18-10-2022, 08:48 AM
#2526
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Is it really surprising that we'd be prepared to take a few more options to the draft given that we aren't hamstrung by needing points for securing top talent via priority access, and have actually been able to see talent exposed this year in the junior competitions?
A few on here have been on about it - particularly Aza (endlessly, Jesus he's annoying), but it seems like the logical thing to have happened given the circumstances.
I guess that's why I won't be kissing Sam Power's arse until he lands the talent.
If you look at who's coming out of contract at the end of next year and who has questionable form we might not done enough now.
We should have a lot of room in the TPP to perhaps pay one of those players out now. We have more than enough fringe players.
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18-10-2022, 12:46 PM
#2527
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Super post from Lachie.
Kinda sad it had to come to this
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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18-10-2022, 01:16 PM
#2528
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Is it really surprising that we'd be prepared to take a few more options to the draft given that we aren't hamstrung by needing points for securing top talent via priority access, and have actually been able to see talent exposed this year in the junior competitions?
A few on here have been on about it - particularly Aza (endlessly, Jesus he's annoying), but it seems like the logical thing to have happened given the circumstances.
I guess that's why I won't be kissing Sam Power's arse until he lands the talent.
Not really Sam's job to 'land the talent' at the draft though is it? My understanding would be that Sam is responsible for working with the coach to identify list gaps, addressing them where possible through trades. He then works with the recruiting scouts/team on the remaining gaps, and potential options to fill them - which may mean acquiring better/different picks.
But he's not responsible for picking the right players - he just gets the recruiters the opportunity, and tells them what types we need.
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18-10-2022, 01:28 PM
#2529
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
jazzadogs
Not really Sam's job to 'land the talent' at the draft though is it? My understanding would be that Sam is responsible for working with the coach to identify list gaps, addressing them where possible through trades. He then works with the recruiting scouts/team on the remaining gaps, and potential options to fill them - which may mean acquiring better/different picks.
But he's not responsible for picking the right players - he just gets the recruiters the opportunity, and tells them what types we need.
Yep, this is Dom Milesi's time to shine.
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18-10-2022, 01:59 PM
#2530
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Kinda sad it had to come to this
Very much so. I would like to learn a bit more about the decision to value him at about pick 50 and trade him thus. To me, his finish to the season indicated likely solid best 22 next year.
Officially on the Bus-wagon
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18-10-2022, 02:27 PM
#2531
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Very classy finish by Hunter.
For whatever reason the last 2-3 years haven't worked out for him but a 10 year servant to the club and 1 of not many that played in a winning GF
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18-10-2022, 03:56 PM
#2532
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
F'scary
Very much so. I would like to learn a bit more about the decision to value him at about pick 50 and trade him thus. To me, his finish to the season indicated likely solid best 22 next year.
Can only imagine that the off field problems that would have been surfaced to other clubs are severe, because two years ago he'd be worth the same as Dunkley in a trade. That or we've just made a meal of it, the off field stuff is fixable, and he goes on to play another 100 games for Melbourne at his 2016-20 elite level.
'And the Western suburbs erupt!'
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18-10-2022, 08:39 PM
#2533
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
azabob
Of the players to come off the list who would've you kept?
I may have kept Wallis, but in doing so you actually have to play him and even though he's probably good enough for a role as a 22-28 player and would be called upon throughout the year, if you're playing him you're not developing someone else.
So overall I don't have an issue with who we let go.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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18-10-2022, 08:44 PM
#2534
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
jazzadogs
Not really Sam's job to 'land the talent' at the draft though is it? My understanding would be that Sam is responsible for working with the coach to identify list gaps, addressing them where possible through trades. He then works with the recruiting scouts/team on the remaining gaps, and potential options to fill them - which may mean acquiring better/different picks.
But he's not responsible for picking the right players - he just gets the recruiters the opportunity, and tells them what types we need.
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
Yep, this is Dom Milesi's time to shine.
I guess we better tell the Bulldogs because they seem to think it is his job.
https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/t...ment/sam-power
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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18-10-2022, 08:54 PM
#2535
Re: List Management thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Recruiting reports to him, but Dom is the one one the ground checking out the players
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.