List Management thread (For 2022)

[FrediKanoute]

I'm of the opposite view, we have had Pick 1 and 2 in the draft over the past two years. That's provided us with top end talent despite our ladder position and we've still been able to use later speculative picks in covid affected years where there has been less exposed form which gives us a chance to steal players later in the draft. I don't see how our draft concessions have worked against us.

I am worried about JUH. I watched via stream a quarter and a half of the VFL game and he was politely underwhelming. Add to the body of work presented whilst in the senior side, along with he senior and reserves form of last year and I have a feeling he will be a bust. He lacks urgency/intensity and I am not sure that we can coach that out of him. I would be inclined to do a deal with North/the Hawks/Essendon and prise some draft picks out of them that we can use on "our type of players".

[MrMahatma]

I am worried about JUH. I watched via stream a quarter and a half of the VFL game and he was politely underwhelming. Add to the body of work presented whilst in the senior side, along with he senior and reserves form of last year and I have a feeling he will be a bust. He lacks urgency/intensity and I am not sure that we can coach that out of him. I would be inclined to do a deal with North/the Hawks/Essendon and prise some draft picks out of them that we can use on "our type of players".

Nah, he’ll come good. Very young. Tough role to play. Has the skills.

[The Doctor]

This year we will enter the trade period with most likely 3 picks in the top 40. It's looking like a good draft. I hope we use them at the draft.

[The Doctor]

Ralph reporting Lobb and Logue from Freo are among our targets.

[DOG GOD]

Ralph reporting Lobb and Logue from Freo are among our targets.

Logue had 29 disposals and 11 marks against GC today in average conditions.

[Vred]

Ralph reporting Lobb and Logue from Freo are among our targets.

Hard no to Lobb, big pass from me. I'd take Hammer back from Freo specially if he comes for next to nothing, and Pearce is the one I'd really be chasing.

[kruder]

Yeah Lobb is such an inconsistent player I would hesitate paying him big coin.

Logue is developing nicely isn’t he a WA boy? I wouldn’t be leaving Fremantle now.

[bornadog]

Yeah Lobb is such an inconsistent player I would hesitate paying him big coin.

Logue is developing nicely isn’t he a WA boy? I wouldn’t be leaving Fremantle now.

Yes he is from WA. Only 193cm, same height as Tim O'Brien. Is he really the backman we are looking for?

[GVGjr]

Yes he is from WA. Only 193cm, same height as Tim O'Brien. Is he really the backman we are looking for?

We made a play for the 190cm Steven May a few years back didn't we and Jake Lever is 194cm and we would happily take both/either of them if they were interested. In most cases if you are good enough you are tall enough. We also let the 197cm Lewis Young go so I don't think height for heights sake is a strong consideration for us.

I'm not sure Logue is exactly what we need but a couple of cm's of height isn't the issue from my perspective. He can play on all sizes of forwards so he's versatile but my question on him is more around if he is durable enough. I think he is also more of a 1 v 1 type defender which might appeal to us.

Gardner, Keath, O'Brien and in a few years time maybe Darcy is a decent starting point for key defenders but we do need to find someone else as well. At 24yo he could be a solid addition but we are probably at long odds to land him.

[jeemak]

We made a play for the 190cm Steven May a few years back didn't we and Jake Lever is 194cm and we would happily take both/either of them if they were interested. In most cases if you are good enough you are tall enough. We also let the 197cm Lewis Young go so I don't think height for heights sake is a strong consideration for us.

I'm not sure Logue is exactly what we need but a couple of cm's of height isn't the issue from my perspective. He can play on all sizes of forwards so he's versatile but my question on him is more around if he is durable enough. I think he is also more of a 1 v 1 type defender which might appeal to us.

Gardner, Keath, O'Brien and in a few years time maybe Darcy is a decent starting point for key defenders but we do need to find someone else as well. At 24yo he could be a solid addition but we are probably at long odds to land him.

Steven May is 193cm tall. And that's plenty tall enough to nullify most contests, and win plenty of others in a team oriented defence.

[GVGjr]

Steven May is 193cm tall. And that's plenty tall enough to nullify most contests, and win plenty of others in a team oriented defence.

Logue is the same height and he is deemed too small. At 193cm that is tall enough if you have some athletic traits..

[Danjul]

This conversation seems to be suggesting the dogs need a tall player.

Recent history shows they don’t recognise them. And I suspect that history is well known by potential players. They won’t come unless as a last resort.

From the AFL website, not written by a Bulldog supporter.


Schache selection reaps rewards
There was some surprise when Josh Schache was included in the side to tackle the Demons given the Dogs' set of tall forwards. Schache started against Demons big man Luke Jackson but also spent time matched up against Ben Brown and Tom McDonald and played well across the night, finishing with 17 disposals and six marks. His inclusion was more valuable than the Dogs would have expected, though, given Keath's hamstring injury early in the first term left them a key defender down.

This about a tall who has also been our best goal kicker at times, as recently as two weeks ago when he also played a half on the back line.

And now they are not seen as being in our top 30 players ???

That game was against the top of the ladder and now we are worried about defeating the Suns?

A squad can go from grand final to worried about the Suns? Is it some form of joke?

[Bulldog Joe]

This conversation seems to be suggesting the dogs need a tall player.

Recent history shows they don’t recognise them. And I suspect that history is well known by potential players. They won’t come unless as a last resort.

From the AFL website, not written by a Bulldog supporter.


Schache selection reaps rewards
There was some surprise when Josh Schache was included in the side to tackle the Demons given the Dogs' set of tall forwards. Schache started against Demons big man Luke Jackson but also spent time matched up against Ben Brown and Tom McDonald and played well across the night, finishing with 17 disposals and six marks. His inclusion was more valuable than the Dogs would have expected, though, given Keath's hamstring injury early in the first term left them a key defender down.

This about a tall who has also been our best goal kicker at times, as recently as two weeks ago when he also played a half on the back line.

And now they are not seen as being in our top 30 players ???

That game was against the top of the ladder and now we are worried about defeating the Suns?

A squad can go from grand final to worried about the Suns? Is it some form of joke?

I am certainly with you on this.

We consistently refuse to pick tall players based on what they can't do and all our talls are expected to mobile and good at ground level.

Under Beveridge we have quickly closed off the career of an All Australian Ruckman and actively removed Premiership Talls in Roughead and Roberts. Plus a reasonable back-up ruck in Campbell.

We also recruited and then dismissed Trengove based on the same criteria

We have also seen Hamling and Adams choose to go elsewhere, while Boyd has retired with different issues.

Throughout all this we have consistently played undersized in defence.

Why would any tall choose to play under Beveridge.

[bornadog]

I am certainly with you on this.

We consistently refuse to pick tall players based on what they can't do and all our talls are expected to mobile and good at ground level.

Under Beveridge we have quickly closed off the career of an All Australian Ruckman and actively removed Premiership Talls in Roughead and Roberts. Plus a reasonable back-up ruck in Campbell.

We also recruited and then dismissed Trengove based on the same criteria

We have also seen Hamling and Adams choose to go elsewhere, while Boyd has retired with different issues.

Throughout all this we have consistently played undersized in defence.

Why would any tall choose to play under Beveridge.

I don't agree with your assessment of Bevo. Bevo is looking for a particular type of tall.

Of all the players you listed, Hamling is the one I would not have let go.

Under Bevo the talls we have recruited are English, Naughton, Schache, Bruce, Gardner, Keath, Sweet, Martin, JUH and Darcy

[GVGjr]

I am certainly with you on this.

We consistently refuse to pick tall players based on what they can't do and all our talls are expected to mobile and good at ground level.

Under Beveridge we have quickly closed off the career of an All Australian Ruckman and actively removed Premiership Talls in Roughead and Roberts. Plus a reasonable back-up ruck in Campbell.

We also recruited and then dismissed Trengove based on the same criteria

We have also seen Hamling and Adams choose to go elsewhere, while Boyd has retired with different issues.

Throughout all this we have consistently played undersized in defence.

Why would any tall choose to play under Beveridge.

Lewis Young was also played out of position and he seems to be going better now as a defender with Carlton.
I don't think we had many options with Hamling but at 194cm he's just a cm taller than Logue.