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04-08-2022, 02:16 PM
#856
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Talented enough player but it would have to be regarded as a risky addition.
Who would he replace?
Whoever is playing our small defensive forward role. McNeil and JJ have been in this role at times this year so we would need to see a defensive mindset shift from that role to one that is more attacking. Not sure who goes to the opposition's gun HB if this happens though.
Bevo has been good with the Indigenous boys, actually the entire club has over the past 5 years.
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04-08-2022, 02:34 PM
#857
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
1eyedog
Whoever is playing our small defensive forward role. McNeil and JJ have been in this role at times this year so we would need to see a defensive mindset shift from that role to one that is more attacking. Not sure who goes to the opposition's gun HB if this happens though.
Bevo has been good with the Indigenous boys, actually the entire club has over the past 5 years.
I would take him.
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04-08-2022, 02:36 PM
#858
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Would love to get Willie Rioli. Don’t think that West Coast have gotten the most out of him and that he can be a far more dynamic player if he’s allowed further out from goal.
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04-08-2022, 03:47 PM
#859
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Would love to get Willie Rioli. Don’t think that West Coast have gotten the most out of him and that he can be a far more dynamic player if he’s allowed further out from goal.
Lets go for both Rioli and Ryan.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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04-08-2022, 04:02 PM
#860
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
azabob
Lets go for both Rioli and Ryan.
And Goldstein and McCartin.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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04-08-2022, 04:02 PM
#861
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
azabob
Lets go for both Rioli and Ryan.
So a forward line with Rioli, Ryan, Naughton, Marra and Weightman! Who would win Mark of the Year?
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05-08-2022, 10:43 AM
#862
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Ladies and Gentleman, I give you Mr Matthew Rendell...
WHAT PORT SHOULD GIVE UP FOR DUNKLEY AND THE “BIG ISSUE” SURROUNDING FANTASIA
Port Adelaide remains linked with Western Bulldogs midfielder Josh Dunkley.
The out-of-contract 25-year-old is yet to re-commit to the Bulldogs who have reportedly offered him a long-term deal.
Dunkley is on the radar of the Power, but what would they have to give up to get him to Alberton?
Matt Rendell speculated about what would be a fair trade for the 112-game premiership Dog.
“Dunkley has been talked about a lot,” Rendell said on SEN SA’s The Run Home.
“I think Dunkley is a good pick if they can get him, but I wouldn’t be offering any more than a second-round (pick).
“They (the Dogs) wanted two first (rounders) off Essendon a couple of years ago.
“Dunkley is out of contract, so Port can walk him to the pre-season (draft) if they want. They won’t want to.”
There are plenty of clubs who are reportedly keen on Dunkley with Adelaide and Port as well as big Victorian clubs showing interest.
While Dunkley would provide plenty of midfield depth for Port, a position they need strengthening is in the area of the small forward.
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05-08-2022, 10:52 AM
#863
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
Ladies and Gentleman, I give you Mr Matthew Rendell...
Its special work
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05-08-2022, 10:55 AM
#864
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Port currently don't have a 2nd round pick but a 2nd rounder could very well be their starting point.
Letting him walk into the pre-season draft when North have the first pick and Adelaide pick before them wouldn't be smart by Port.
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05-08-2022, 10:55 AM
#865
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
“Port can walk him to the pre season draft” where they currently have what pick 8?
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05-08-2022, 11:13 AM
#866
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
The Doctor
Since our premiership in 2016 there have been 6 trade/draft periods. The following has happened in terms of player acquisitions;
- Only 10 youngsters recruited in the top 40 of any of these drafts
- Only 3 youngsters in the last 3 drafts in the top 40
I'd like to add further to my post #818 supporting the need for more quality youth coming into the club this recruiting/trade period (and beyond). This post had a look at what we have done in terms of recruiting youngsters into our club since we won the premiership in 2016. The following post will look at the other end of the list, the older players and what lies ahead.
The Veterans
As it stands now, there would be 9 players if retained on our list beyond 2022 who would be 30+ next season;
Treloar, Wallis, Martin, Crozier, Duryea, Bruce, Liberatore, Johannisen, Keath
How many of these will be on the list next year? How many beyond 2023? The only certainty beyond then would be Treloar as he will have only completed 3 years of his 5 year contract.
According to reports we will be recruiting Lobb 30 and Liam Jones 32 on 3 year deals to add to our veteran category.
In 2021 when we made the Grand Final we had just 3 players in the team that were 30+. In 2016 we also had just 3 players who were 30+ in our premiership winning team.
Coming up behind them is the next layer of senior players who will be 29 next year;
Hunter, Hannan, Macrae, O’Brien
Macrae aside, will the others be be on the list beyond next year?
Our 2022 list is getting older. Most of our veterans are feeling the pinch or are in/out of the team. Does anyone think any of them could be a premiership player like Morris or Matty Boyd at the age of 34? It is most conceivable that the majority of the bolded players above will have retired or be moved on if not this year then almost certainly by the end of the 2023 season. Then we also have the likelihood of players not on this list being traded out and other younger players being delisted. So we are potentially looking at a major transition of the list in the next year or two.
The great thing about our list is the strength of our 'in their prime' or coming 'into their prime' players led by Bont, Dale, English, Dunkley, Smith, Daniel, Naughton etc who have many years ahead of them. It is important we retain the likes of Smith, Dunkley and West. Note that all these players were all drafted by the Bulldogs. Our premiership team had 19/22 Bulldog draftees in it & Tom Boyd was a 2nd year player when he joined us. It was a fairly young side.
We have some big decisions to make. The club, despite our wobbly season this year, is well in the premiership window. We have Lobb and Jones incoming as senior players to help with that challenge, but unless there is a super young player (like Boyd) that addresses a need we should be hitting the draft hard and bring in more quality youngsters to learn from the likes of Bont, Naughts and co while they are in their prime. It will give us a refresh and bring in some youthful exuberance. It can be catchy.
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05-08-2022, 11:15 AM
#867
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
Ladies and Gentleman, I give you Mr Matthew Rendell...
Did someone leave the gate to the nursing home open again?
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05-08-2022, 11:19 AM
#868
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Seriously what is going on with Smith. It’s Round 21, he’s one of the most high profile players in the AFL and there is no noise anywhere about him.
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05-08-2022, 11:26 AM
#869
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
The Doctor
Did someone leave the gate to the nursing home open again?
Reading the article, he says nothing
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05-08-2022, 11:53 AM
#870
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Seriously what is going on with Smith. It’s Round 21, he’s one of the most high profile players in the AFL and there is no noise anywhere about him.
Not sure what the delay is but the lack of noise is comforting to me. No smoke, no fire hopefully. Not much gets past the footy media in these situations so if there was anything to worry about surely we would be hearing something?