List Management thread (For 2022)

[soupman]

Hunter too… obviously has had his off-field issues which wouldn’t have helped, but his output has dropped off after signing a similar length contract.

Depends what the payoff is though.

I guess the two big bargaining chips you have to offer as a club is salary and years, the more of one means the less of another. Maybe 5x$500K is what he signed instead of 3x$650K or whatever.

The protection against the likes of JJ and Hunters underperformance is that you are paying them under market value, so I guess in a way if they regress a little they are still being paid appropriately for that output.

This is the way to work within the salary cap I guess, you either risk a longer term contract to fit everyone in or are forced to cut someone.

[comrade]

Long contract but the penny has dropped and I think we’ll get good value out of him over the deal, particularly if the trade off was less per year over a longer period.

He’s truly an elite half back flanker now and probably the best ball user by foot in the game.

[azabob]

Depends what the payoff is though.

I guess the two big bargaining chips you have to offer as a club is salary and years, the more of one means the less of another. Maybe 5x$500K is what he signed instead of 3x$650K or whatever.

The protection against the likes of JJ and Hunters underperformance is that you are paying them under market value, so I guess in a way if they regress a little they are still being paid appropriately for that output.

This is the way to work within the salary cap I guess, you either risk a longer term contract to fit everyone in or are forced to cut someone.

Normally I agree. With JJ I think he did very very well contract length and $ wise. Right time, right place with his individual performance and the teams performance.

[comrade]

Normally I agree. With JJ I think he did very very well contract length and $ wise. Right time, right place with his individual performance and the teams performance.

Pretty sure the JJ deal was signed at the Railway hotel on GF night after about 20 beers, we just didn’t announce it until later

[The Underdog]

I'm pretty happy that we've signed 2 x 25yo's with AA pedigree, who are 2 of our most effective ball users, through the back half of their 20's. Not irreplaceable players, but rewarding good players you've nurtured from being drafted isn't a bad thing.

[Happy Days]

Also - weren’t there reports that Dale was signing on less than market value? I could definitely choose to believe that.

[EasternWest]

I'm pretty happy that we've signed 2 x 25yo's with AA pedigree, who are 2 of our most effective ball users, through the back half of their 20's. Not irreplaceable players, but rewarding good players you've nurtured from being drafted isn't a bad thing.

Yep agree entirely. I reckon they both would have signed for less than they're worth on the open market given the length of the deals. Good club men.

Also - weren’t there reports that Dale was signing on less than market value? I could definitely choose to believe that.

#nottraitors

[bornadog]

Toby McLean: 2022
Josh Dunkley: 2022
Tim English: 2022
Rhylee West: 2022
Alex Keath: 2022
Josh Schache: 2022
Bailey Smith: 2022
Mitch Hannan: 2022
Dominic Bedendo: 2022
Louis Butler: 2022
Riley Garcia: 2022
Zaine Cordy: 2022
Taylor Duryea: 2022
Buku Khamis: 2022 (Rookie)
Mitch Wallis: 2022
Stefan Martin: 2022
Charlie Parker: 2022 (Rookie)
Robbie McComb: 2022 (Rookie)
Cody Raak: 2022 (Rookie)

Who is in danger of not being signed up?

[Mantis]

Depends what the payoff is though.

I guess the two big bargaining chips you have to offer as a club is salary and years, the more of one means the less of another. Maybe 5x$500K is what he signed instead of 3x$650K or whatever.

The protection against the likes of JJ and Hunters underperformance is that you are paying them under market value, so I guess in a way if they regress a little they are still being paid appropriately for that output.

This is the way to work within the salary cap I guess, you either risk a longer term contract to fit everyone in or are forced to cut someone.

Yep, it's a balancing act for sure... however for ''outside'' players there is a greater risk with drop-off in form which needs to be factored in too.

And re: JJ's contract - it was reported at the time he signed on for 5 x $650-700k so if correct we haven't received output in line with contract terms.

[1eyedog]

That will be the big challenge. JJ is the perfect example of how it can go wrong.

Bailey would have had 5 year deals in front of him from elsewhere. Said he'd stay at the Dogs for less money and I believe him but reckon we needed to swallow a boulder and offer five as well. I'm down with that for an AA backman who is the best kick in the comp and is capable of kicking goals from HB.

For reference Saad got five moving from the Bombers to the Blues.

[soupman]

Yep, it's a balancing act for sure... however for ''outside'' players there is a greater risk with drop-off in form which needs to be factored in too.

And re: JJ's contract - it was reported at the time he signed on for 5 x $650-700k so if correct we haven't received output in line with contract terms.

Think JJ contract was overs at the time tbh and not sure he has ever reached the heights Dale has for one and half seasons.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Great news about Dale.

Dunkley's situation becomes interesting / what we offer.

[macca]

Bailey would have had 5 year deals in front of him from elsewhere. Said he'd stay at the Dogs for less money and I believe him but reckon we needed to swallow a boulder and offer five as well. I'm down with that for an AA backman who is the best kick in the comp and is capable of kicking goals from HB.

For reference Saad got five moving from the Bombers to the Blues.

Great post , totally agree

Prolific Goal kicking HB and wingman don’t grow on trees. They are game changers :
Issac smith , Gilbee, suckling , Peter matera , Winmar , such good players …and the great Eagleton

Wrapt that he has committed to us .

[bornadog]

Great post , totally agree

Prolific Goal kicking HB and wingman don’t grow on trees. They are game changers :
Issac smith , Gilbee, Suckling , Peter matera , Winmar , such good players .

Wrapt that he has committed to us .

EasternWest would agree with this

[EasternWest]

Great post , totally agree

Prolific Goal kicking HB and wingman don’t grow on trees. They are game changers :
Issac smith , Gilbee, suckling , Peter matera , Winmar , such good players .

Wrapt that he has committed to us .

One if these things is not like the others.

Honestly macca I am disappoint.