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    Re: A take on our GoalKicking (sorry I mean point kicking)

    Haha yes.

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    Re: A take on our GoalKicking (sorry I mean point kicking)

    Quote Originally Posted by Before I Die View Post
    Hi BID54, as stated earlier I am a traditionalist and struggle with the concepts of set shots being taken as snaps around the body. However the article clearly states that ‘set shot snaps are significantly more successful than traditional set shots’, (not a precise quote). The article then makes no further reference to this. I’d love to see the actual data. If it is true, and I’m a bit sceptical, then it should be pursued. Harry Mackay was a crap kick at goal until he changed to using the snap. This really could be the answer for players like Naighton and Vandemeer. I think Dunkley is beyond hope whatever technique he tried.
    Haha yes.
    My point is set shot kicks can be better with teaching and practice.
    Like golfespecially putting. The mental aspect especially.
    A serious business.
    Bulkdogs need to teach and practice set shot goal kicking more. Seriously.
    Forehead to the kneecap after a straight runin works reliably with practice for starters. Lack of balance of the torso, positive imaging...

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    Re: A take on our GoalKicking (sorry I mean point kicking)

    Golfers have putting practice routine of shots from a metre, then two metres then three metres...
    So our forwards from varying angles from 20m, 35m, 45m...
    Drills work!
    Loved Macrae's goal!

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    Re: A take on our GoalKicking (sorry I mean point kicking)

    Players either kick goals or behinds. Points are the culmination of their score. Sorry to be pedantic.

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    Re: A take on our GoalKicking (sorry I mean point kicking)

    Found this post on Facebook by "Kicking Dynamics" - "Leading AFL kicking & skills experts. Founded by former Sydney Swan, Tim Schmidt"

    “Frustrating is probably the obvious word. The last few weeks we‘ve kicked way too many points,” Beveridge said post-game.
    👎🏼 16 goals 36 points the @westernbulldogs have kicked in the past two rounds (30% accuracy) - and that doesn't include the shots that didn't register a score!
    So what is going on❓
    👀 Let's have a look at Josh Dunkley's kick from Saturday night (just one of the examples we could have used).
    🖐🏻 Grip - we feel his hands are too close and this makes it harder to have full control of the ball and drop.
    🏉 Ball Drop - because of the grip, he tilts the ball up and lets go of the ball, which results in no control of the ball. He needs to guide the ball back into his foot.
    🦶🏻Connection - poor connection on the ball and foot and has to 'reach' for the ball and lean back, due to not guiding the ball back in.
    🏃*!♂️ Momentum & Alignment - stops his momentum and hooks his leg across his body due to reaching for the ball.
    So, how to get this right?
    ✅ Adjusting hand position on the ball will:
    - Give more control on the ball
    - Allow to guide the ball back into foot
    - Help body posture be over the ball
    - Keep the body straighter towards goal
    - Help momentum move through the ball
    = All this results in better accuracy.
    Poor goal kicking is causing clubs to lose games of football. Our professional opinion is to get back to the basics, simplify the process and keep everything in line with the target and this will help you kick more goals❗



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    Re: A take on our GoalKicking (sorry I mean point kicking)

    Thanks for sharing.

    His technique is sketchy at the best of times, add fatigue and pressure and it completely fell apart.

    Ball drop too high, leaning back too far.

    Watch video of Lockett, he almost hunched over the ball drop to ensure maximum guidance.

    Another exceptional goal kicker, Akermanis always kicked the ball higher when in close so he followed through correctly.

    What are we working on?

    For some guys like Dunks, I almost have him guiding it down two handed when within 30.
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    Dunks is one of the worse shots on goal. Most of the others have no excuse as they are a beautiful kick of the ball.
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    Re: A take on our GoalKicking (sorry I mean point kicking)

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Dunks is one of the worse shots on goal. Most of the others have no excuse as they are a beautiful kick of the ball.
    Libba has a very ugly awkward kicking action but he cares so much he is very, very careful.
    Actually usually a very accurate kick. But looks 'orrid.
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    Re: A take on our GoalKicking (sorry I mean point kicking)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Dog View Post
    Libba has a very ugly awkward kicking action but he cares so much he is very, very careful.
    Actually usually a very accurate kick. But looks 'orrid.
    He's probably our best kick?
    Does have an interesting wind up at times but he's the guy I'd have kick for something important.
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    Re: A take on our GoalKicking (sorry I mean point kicking)

    What I would like to know is goal kicking practice just the players having a ping after main practice or is it under the guidance of the coaches.
    If its the first then its not very constructive if its the second are the coaches pointing out flaws and getting them to work on it or are they just watching to make sure they don't muck around and are taking kicking seriously.
    There's practice and then there's practice.
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    Re: A take on our GoalKicking (sorry I mean point kicking)

    This has been a problem for years. I remember people commenting on the lack of pressure being applied on the kicker, set shots taken in practice, people horsing around, not taking it seriously at training.
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    Re: A take on our GoalKicking (sorry I mean point kicking)

    Matthew Lloyd analysed Naughton's misses and cited lack of momemtum during the kick.
    He walks in then stops before he kicks.
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    Re: A take on our GoalKicking (sorry I mean point kicking)

    Quote Originally Posted by BornInDroopSt'54 View Post
    Matthew Lloyd analysed Naughton's misses and cited lack of momemtum during the kick.
    He walks in then stops before he kicks.
    Run in boys.
    It’s ridiculous we have not got a specialist kicking coach. Let’s keep putting our head in the sand. Our inability to deliver accurately and quickly into the F50 and hence many shots are from pocket doesn’t help either.

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    Re: A take on our GoalKicking (sorry I mean point kicking)

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    He's probably our best kick?
    Does have an interesting wind up at times but he's the guy I'd have kick for something important.


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    Re: A take on our GoalKicking (sorry I mean point kicking)

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    Am I a joke to you?
    It was Suckling or Libba previously.

    Dale is close to claiming the mantle fo sho.
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