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06-06-2022, 06:21 PM
#316
Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Not sure your problem with Bruce?
I think Danjul is pointing out the structure was better back then rather than Bruce was bad.
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06-06-2022, 06:22 PM
#317
Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022
Originally Posted by
bornadog
McNeil is ranked 15th best tackler inside 50 in the AFL
I love McNeil I was trying to be balanced.
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06-06-2022, 06:32 PM
#318
Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
It does kind of blow my mind that McNeil and McComb (the little Macs) get a gig before a bonafide forward in Schache.
I'm as hard on Schache as anyone (because I want him to succeed) but structurally he has to be better.
Must come in next game for one of those guys.
Bevo and his obsession with the turnover game/legspeed.
His natural game is like Cameron who Uses leading patterns (instead of contested pack marks) and accurate kicking. Geelong relies on the other tall forward to do the heavy stuff.
Together they cover all bases and give multiple targets that are hard to control,
We could really learn a lot from that Geelong debacle.
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06-06-2022, 06:40 PM
#319
Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
I think Danjul is pointing out the structure was better back then rather than Bruce was bad.
Exactly. Our forwards were unstoppable. By this point of the season Bruce had 30 goals, Naughton had 30, Bont had 20, English had a dozen despite missing games. Treloar was kicking goals too. So many goals. So many wins.
Get the ball into tall forwards quickly (ruck aspect) and they know how to deliver success.
Living proof of what we should do.
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06-06-2022, 07:03 PM
#320
Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022
Originally Posted by
Danjul
His natural game is like Cameron who Uses leading patterns (instead of contested pack marks) and accurate kicking. Geelong relies on the other tall forward to do the heavy stuff.
Together they cover all bases and give multiple targets that are hard to control,
We could really learn a lot from that Geelong debacle.
Cameron is much more dynamic. Has tons of speed. Shack is a bit of a plodder.
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06-06-2022, 07:52 PM
#321
Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Cameron is much more dynamic. Has tons of speed. Shack is a bit of a plodder.
The video in another thread shows him kicking multiple goals from outside 50 , getting the ball from fast leads. Admittedly a lower standard but his finishing ability can’t be denied. Put him in the firsts and tell the midfielders to honour his leads. Count the goals.
Or waste his talent. Glad it’s not my choice.
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06-06-2022, 08:24 PM
#322
Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Cameron is much more dynamic. Has tons of speed. Shack is a bit of a plodder.
Schache is a leading forward but given our poor delivery into the forward line often gets bypassed. His kicking for goal is superb in direct contrast to Naughton. Would rarely be seen flying with either Bruce or Naughton.
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06-06-2022, 08:26 PM
#323
Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022
Originally Posted by
Nuggety Back Pocket
Schache is a leading forward but given our poor delivery into the forward line often gets bypassed. His kicking for goal is superb in direct contrast to Naughton. Would rarely be seen flying with either Bruce or Naughton.
He would've kicked 70 goals every year in the 90s
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06-06-2022, 09:01 PM
#324
Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022
You can compare the style of Schache (75 goals from 68 games, best year 24.8 from 14 games in 2019) to Cameron (503 goals from 198 games, averaging 2.53 per game with 6 out of 10 seasons 40+ goals) but you can't compare the results.
I would have Shack in the team this week, but let's not get too carried away about him being the difference.
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06-06-2022, 09:06 PM
#325
Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
I love McNeil I was trying to be balanced.
Yeah what happened to that Avatar.
To me McComb is improving every week, but he is not best 22/23 but a good back up to have.
FFC: Established 1883
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06-06-2022, 09:39 PM
#326
Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022
Originally Posted by
jazzadogs
You can compare the style of Schache (75 goals from 68 games, best year 24.8 from 14 games in 2019) to Cameron (503 goals from 198 games, averaging 2.53 per game with 6 out of 10 seasons 40+ goals) but you can't compare the results.
I would have Shack in the team this week, but let's not get too carried away about him being the difference.
He will not be the difference but neither is our current structure. We need two genuine ruck men which includes Sweet and a second tall forward be it Schache until Bruce is fit again. There is also a lack of experience on the forward line with McComb McNeil and West. Players like Bont Dunkley and Treloar need to play more time forward to provide more experience and goal kicking abilities.
Until we get the balance right we can expect more of the same as was experienced against Geelong
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06-06-2022, 09:54 PM
#327
Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Yeah what happened to that Avatar.
To me McComb is improving every week, but he is not best 22/23 but a good back up to have.
What avatar ?
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06-06-2022, 09:59 PM
#328
Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
I love McNeil I was trying to be balanced.
I see what you did there…
More of an In Bruges guy?
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06-06-2022, 10:29 PM
#329
Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022
Originally Posted by
azabob
I see what you did there…
Can you let me know what it was?
Also why do you hate Levi so much I’m a huge advocate.
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06-06-2022, 11:38 PM
#330
Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
What avatar ?
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Can you let me know what it was?
Also why do you hate Levi so much I’m a huge advocate.
Who is that old bloke?
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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