Honest reflection and the path forward

[Bulldog4life]

Quick Re-cap of Footy on Nine

This should be called the Nine-o show because everyone's name ends in 'O' bar Hutchy-o

Kane-o - If we lost Dunkley we wouldn't be a worse side.
Car-o, takes a big breath in, so she can fit as many bad things about Bevo in as she can.
Admire her effort for trying to dress in the easter egg green, but wish for god's sake she would keep it buttoned up.
( 'You're being sexist'! I hear you say, No, worse! a fashion policeman, lighten up ).

Loyyyydooo has a theory. We have no area of strength and nobody is scared of our midfield.
Hutchy-o - too many of one type of player ( fair point )

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Kane-o to his credit at least finished with a few positive bits of play from Ballarat.

When Llyod played he was Lloydy. For some reason as he stepped into the media Gary Lyon started with the Lloydo. Seems to have stuck. Must seem more chummy to them.

[macca]

I'm not a fan but this isn't true.

She is into Richmond ON FIELD all the time - to be fair, what bad things have there been to say about the Tiges since 2017. If the Dusty show hadn't exploded in the 2020 GF maybe a few more I guess but they have been rock solid for a while now.

She has been very critical of a few things they have been doing this year, notably:

- High number of 50m penalties and general on-field discipline
- Lack of direction in selecting a captain and the '50 cents each way approach'.
- Refusal to change their on-field system to better suit the changes in personnel.

What about the Martin's chopstick incident ?

Off-field issues with Stack ?

I don't really want to be negative or raise these negatives , but my point is , I question how balanced is her reporting ?

[azabob]

What about the Martin's chopstick incident ?

Off-field issues with Stack ?

I don't really want to be negative or raise these negatives , but my point is , I question how balanced is her reporting ?

macca, a quick google search will show Wilson went hard and often at Martin RE his offield issues.

[azabob]

Common themes from posters in the last 24 hours; (rightly or wrongly)

Coaches box too slow to react when O’Brien was subbed off
List management shambles in our rucks and key defenders
Injuries and conditioning - why so many soft tissue injuries during training, warm ups and now game day
Individual performance V team performance

As a club why can we not achieve sustained success? After 2016 we dropped right away in 2017, 2018 and started to rise up again 2019, 2020 and 2021. It seems we now be following a similar trajectory.

This is Beveridges team now; he has had a hand in breaking down the list post 2016 and building it back up.

Do we have strong enough personalities in Chris Grand and Ameet Baines to ask the hard questions and demand answers from the football department from Luke Beveridge, Sam Power, Chris Bell, Matthew Innes? Demand answers other than the soft cap…

[azabob]

Further to this the whole club onfield womens and mens seniors and reserves are a complete mess.

[Grantysghost]

Common themes from posters in the last 24 hours; (rightly or wrongly)

Coaches box too slow to react when O’Brien was subbed off
List management shambles in our rucks and key defenders
Injuries and conditioning - why so many soft tissue injuries during training, warm ups and now game day
Individual performance V team performance

As a club why can we not achieve sustained success? After 2016 we dropped right away in 2017, 2018 and started to rise up again 2019, 2020 and 2021. It seems we now be following a similar trajectory.

This is Beveridges team now; he has had a hand in breaking down the list post 2016 and building it back up.

Do we have strong enough personalities in Chris Grand and Ameet Baines to ask the hard questions and demand answers from the football department from Luke Beveridge, Sam Power, Chris Bell, Matthew Innes? Demand answers other than the soft cap…

Grant doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would want any disruption.
Not saying that's bad or good but he's a conservative bloke.

[Swoop]

Grant doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would want any disruption.
Not saying that's bad or good but he's a conservative bloke.

Can you support your view with any evidence?

[Grantysghost]

Can you support your view with any evidence?

No.
Pure speculation.

[Swoop]

No.
Pure speculation.

He strikes me as a real risk taker. In my opinion, he's the kind of guy to eat two day old chicken.

[Grantysghost]

He strikes me as a real risk taker. In my opinion, he's the kind of guy to eat two day old chicken.

Haha. Gold.

[jeemak]

Common themes from posters in the last 24 hours; (rightly or wrongly)

Coaches box too slow to react when O’Brien was subbed off
List management shambles in our rucks and key defenders
Injuries and conditioning - why so many soft tissue injuries during training, warm ups and now game day
Individual performance V team performance

As a club why can we not achieve sustained success? After 2016 we dropped right away in 2017, 2018 and started to rise up again 2019, 2020 and 2021. It seems we now be following a similar trajectory.

This is Beveridges team now; he has had a hand in breaking down the list post 2016 and building it back up.

Do we have strong enough personalities in Chris Grand and Ameet Baines to ask the hard questions and demand answers from the football department from Luke Beveridge, Sam Power, Chris Bell, Matthew Innes? Demand answers other than the soft cap…

The piece around injuries is the one I want focused on as swiftly as possible.

The coaching team/ MC will always have excuses/ reasons for doing the things they do and it's hard to unpick or argue without overstepping the mark and putting noses out of joint mid year, while recruiting is a bit of a slower burn and hugely subjective and influenced by external factors. However, the casualty rate is something that must be addressed pronto.

Whether it's fair, unfair or neither the healthy teams have won flags in recent times. Even we were healthy in 2016 when we put our charge together albeit largely for the first time for the year (we're cheats, we are). We need to give our coaching team/ MC every opportunity to succeed by having as full a compliment as possible and take away any excuses for poor performance.

[azabob]

Grantysghost made an interesting point in another thread that we only make off field changes when they are forced.
Take that for what you will.

[GVGjr]

Can you support your view with any evidence?

I've had the privilege of talking to Chris grant a couple of times and he has a calm but determined passion for the club.
I don't think he would step away from tough decisions.

[Grantysghost]

I've had the privilege of talking to Chris grant a couple of times and he has a calm but determined passion for the club.
I don't think he would step away from tough decisions.

Once he runs it past Bevo

[Mantis]

I've had the privilege of talking to Chris grant a couple of times and he has a calm but determined passion for the club.
I don't think he would step away from tough decisions.

Which tough decisions have been made in Chris's tenure?

I know it's hard to know what happens behind closed doors, but it seems not a lot has changed in his time as the footy boss.