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    Re: AFL Game Day R15 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    He knew exactly what he was doing. The big giveaway is passing/ ignoring the footy and going the body.
    The $300m Taxpayer Funded Pissant Regional Toy Ground protection racket has been in full swing since Saturday arvo. It's a shame we just had Queens birthday awards, otherwise Tom Stewart would have been in line for an Order of Australia.
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    Re: AFL Game Day R15 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    That's a good point re replays. The VAR is really annoying.

    For eg with the Stewart/Prestia incident. I'd have the same type of system.

    You've got a player knocked out. The ARC or whatever it's called notifies the umpire at the next stoppage that something has happened and needs to be checked.

    He goes to a screen on the side and decides. It can be over in a few minutes, but it would be a culture change that people might struggle with.

    Would need to be used with discretion.
    I think you take it out of the field umpire/s hands and the ''video umpire'' makes the decision.

    The game can continue whilst a decision is being made and then the emergency umpire notifies the on-field umpires at the next stoppage in play of the decision.

    Would think it might be a once a year occurrence for incidents such as this one and the Cameron hit on Andrews.

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    I'm against it. I understand the concerns in game about a victims side being disadvantaged but i think it's careful what you wish for and I do not trust the AFL one bit to do it well.

    I'd much rather they actually start treating incidents with clear malicious intent seriously when they hand out suspensions instead of trying to fix it in the middle of a game.
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    Re: AFL Game Day R15 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by soupman View Post
    I'm against it. I understand the concerns in game about a victims side being disadvantaged but i think it's careful what you wish for and I do not trust the AFL one bit to do it well.

    I'd much rather they actually start treating incidents with clear malicious intent seriously when they hand out suspensions instead of trying to fix it in the middle of a game.
    A consistent and strong approach at the tribunal is the answer, if players know they're going to miss 4 or 5 weeks it's a fair deterrent for them.

    I don't think Stewart intended to knock out Prestia but once his focus diverted away from the football and more to making contact with the man then he has to accept the outcomes for that decision.
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    Re: AFL Game Day R15 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    but it would be a culture change that people might struggle with.
    Wayne Carey still has a prominent career in the industry. James Hird is starting to be talked about like he's the second coming. Campbell Brown still has a job. The culture doesn't change so this is a moot point.
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    Re: AFL Game Day R15 2022

    The yellow and red card system works in other levels of Aussie Rules. Yellow card is 15 minutes off for a reportable offence. Red card is off for the game for a serious offence or 2nd yellow. Should have been in the AFL decades ago.

    As for the Stewart v Prestia incident, why was the game allowed to continue? The umpire even told Prestia to get out of the protected zone whilst he was lying on the ground, barely conscious and being attended to by trainers...what a muppet.
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    Re: AFL Game Day R15 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    The yellow and red card system works in other levels of Aussie Rules. Yellow card is 15 minutes off for a reportable offence. Red card is off for the game for a serious offence or 2nd yellow.
    We have a BLUE card as well now.

    Player leaves the field with a head injury? If an oppo player was deemed to have caused said injury, he is sent from the field until the concussion test is completed (because the player with a player under concussion protocol is effectively one-short whilst the test is happening). It actually makes too MUCH sense.

    On the weekend, we had a player leave the field under concussion protocols and ruled out of the game. Once the test was complete, the other teams player was able to go back on (so it isn't an instant report/conviction)...I mean, I guess we were still disadvantaged (especially since he has now been rubbed out for 3-weeks) but it's the testing period that (to me at least) is the key at AFL level...you can't activate your sub in a lot of cases until the test results are back, so you are effectively a rotation down...
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    Re: AFL Game Day R15 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    The yellow and red card system works in other levels of Aussie Rules. Yellow card is 15 minutes off for a reportable offence. Red card is off for the game for a serious offence or 2nd yellow. Should have been in the AFL decades ago.

    As for the Stewart v Prestia incident, why was the game allowed to continue? The umpire even told Prestia to get out of the protected zone whilst he was lying on the ground, barely conscious and being attended to by trainers...what a muppet.
    It's a very immature sport that doesn't penalise critical incidents in game.
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    It just makes sense.
    Name one major sport that doesn't do this.

    Also, no our game isn't that unique.
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    Re: AFL Game Day R15 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by mjp View Post
    We have a BLUE card as well now.

    Player leaves the field with a head injury? If an oppo player was deemed to have caused said injury, he is sent from the field until the concussion test is completed (because the player with a player under concussion protocol is effectively one-short whilst the test is happening). It actually makes too MUCH sense.

    On the weekend, we had a player leave the field under concussion protocols and ruled out of the game. Once the test was complete, the other teams player was able to go back on (so it isn't an instant report/conviction)...I mean, I guess we were still disadvantaged (especially since he has now been rubbed out for 3-weeks) but it's the testing period that (to me at least) is the key at AFL level...you can't activate your sub in a lot of cases until the test results are back, so you are effectively a rotation down...
    How do they handle incidental or accidental contact to the head in that scenario? I'm assuming it's subjective, how could it not be.
    Borderline irrational.

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    Re: AFL Game Day R15 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    How do they handle incidental or accidental contact to the head in that scenario? I'm assuming it's subjective, how could it not be.
    Same as the world game when they go for a header.
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    Re: AFL Game Day R15 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by mjp View Post
    We have a BLUE card as well now.

    Player leaves the field with a head injury? If an oppo player was deemed to have caused said injury, he is sent from the field until the concussion test is completed (because the player with a player under concussion protocol is effectively one-short whilst the test is happening). It actually makes too MUCH sense.

    On the weekend, we had a player leave the field under concussion protocols and ruled out of the game. Once the test was complete, the other teams player was able to go back on (so it isn't an instant report/conviction)...I mean, I guess we were still disadvantaged (especially since he has now been rubbed out for 3-weeks) but it's the testing period that (to me at least) is the key at AFL level...you can't activate your sub in a lot of cases until the test results are back, so you are effectively a rotation down...
    I'm not sure why we can't be progressive enough to learn from sports that let's face it are worth probably our entire competition per game.

    Or maybe let's live in the era where Blight and Sheedy can send out hit men with zero penalty.
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    Re: AFL Game Day R15 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    Same as the world game when they go for a header.
    So you're saying the competition MJP is talking about handles those incidents the same way the world game does via VAR?
    Borderline irrational.

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    Maybe we should look at Ice Hockey and give the side that loses the player a power play the offending player goes into I suppose a sin bin for a set amount of time and have to play short.
    Mind you I'm still against changes to the rules and they need to reel a few of the latest one back.
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    Re: AFL Game Day R15 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    So you're saying the competition MJP is talking about handles those incidents the same way the world game does via VAR?
    I don't know what I'm saying. Let me know when you find out Jee.
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