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01-07-2022, 08:16 AM
#346
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
I think this would be a poorly timed and reactive move for a player who has never shown consistency across his career. With JUH, Darcy a returning Bruce and Naughton, I think this would be a trade being made a year too late for the circumstances.
Plus, (and my biases exposed here), I just cannot bring myself to get enthusiastic about seeking to bring in a player who I firmly remember as being part of the GWS bully crew (along with Cameron and Patton) who took such glee at deriding Tom Boyd during the 2016 Prelim.
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01-07-2022, 09:42 AM
#347
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
chef
So when Naughton, Bruce and Marra are all fit and forward where does Lobb fit?
Who plays second ruck? Bruce?
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01-07-2022, 09:46 AM
#348
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
The two worst thing about the Lobb trade is not that he is a very inconsistent performer during the H&A season, not that we have to spend $1.5m to get him, not his terrible tattoos
The two worst things are
1. We have to give up a 2nd round draft pick for him - we should be hitting the draft
2. We think he will be more consistent with effort than Josh Schache. He won't be. The only difference is we will be paying more money for the pleasure.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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01-07-2022, 09:54 AM
#349
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
azabob
The two worst thing about the Lobb trade is not that he is a very inconsistent performer during the H&A season, not that we have to spend $1.5m to get him, not his terrible tattoos
The two worst things are
1. We have to give up a 2nd round draft pick for him - we should be hitting the draft
2. We think he will be more consistent with effort than Josh Schache. He won't be. The only difference is we will be paying more money for the pleasure.
I would rather give a 2nd round pick for a quality backman
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01-07-2022, 10:21 AM
#350
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Who plays second ruck? Bruce?
Yep, I think thats the most logical step. We've got to think about Darcy too who'll start playing firsts games next season.
Lobb is not the answer to any of our current worries and it's just a waste of a list spot, salary cap and draft picks. Makes no sense so I'm sure we'll do it.
The curse is dead.
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01-07-2022, 10:55 AM
#351
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
If Lobb is the answer we are asking the wrong question.
"Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"
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01-07-2022, 11:02 AM
#352
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
Sedat
If Lobb is the answer we are asking the wrong question.
Very succinctly put as opposed to my written diarrhea.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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01-07-2022, 11:05 AM
#353
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
Sedat
If Lobb is the answer we are asking the wrong question.
Good point, I think he is been given extra credits by some for his ability to ruck.
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01-07-2022, 11:06 AM
#354
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Good point, I think he is been given extra credits by some for his ability to ruck.
But haven't woofers been calling out for more ruck support?
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01-07-2022, 11:22 AM
#355
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
bornadog
But haven't woofers been calling out for more ruck support?
For sure, and on paper he's a good fit for us. I'm not sure why but I'm still cautious about him.
Looking at it a bit closer he's more or less Fremantle's number one goal kicking key forward or maybe some might say he splits that with Taberner.
If he comes to us he's more likely the number 3 key forward. Does that work well for us and for Lobb?
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01-07-2022, 11:32 AM
#356
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
For sure, and on paper he's a good fit for us. I'm not sure why but I'm still cautious about him.
Looking at it a bit closer he's more or less Fremantle's number one goal kicking key forward or maybe some might say he splits that with Taberner.
If he comes to us he's more likely the number 3 key forward. Does that work well for us and for Lobb?
Lobb is like all the English all-rounders from the 90's who were going to be the "next Botham" for their prowess with both bat and ball but ended up being ordinary in both. Lobb is an ordinary and wildly inconsistent option in both key forward and ruck and he will cost a bomb.
"Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"
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01-07-2022, 11:34 AM
#357
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
Sedat
Lobb is like all the English all-rounders from the 90's who were going to be the "next Botham" for their prowess with both bat and ball but ended up being ordinary in both. Lobb is an ordinary and wildly inconsistent option in both key forward and ruck and he will cost a bomb.
$500,000 pa over 3 years been quoted.
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01-07-2022, 11:40 AM
#358
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
Sedat
Lobb is like all the English all-rounders from the 90's who were going to be the "next Botham" for their prowess with both bat and ball but ended up being ordinary in both. Lobb is an ordinary and wildly inconsistent option in both key forward and ruck and he will cost a bomb.
People were saying McStay at $600k over 5 was a good price. 3 years, $500k seems like a good deal to me.
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01-07-2022, 11:48 AM
#359
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Did anyone see Lobb play against Melbourne recently? He ripped them to pieces.
Our draft picks for this year based on our current ladder position are 10, 28, 37 & 64
He would basically replace Martin on the list.
If 37 gets it done surely that's good business.
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01-07-2022, 12:05 PM
#360
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
A key defender make more sense unless we think Naughton to the back line is worth considering.
Well this is probably never happening again ever. We don't even send him back occasionally to help stem the tide, and we shouldn't he's one of the best key forwards in the league and nearly winning the coleman despite being a terrible set shot and only being 22 (wow).
Originally Posted by
chef
Lobb is not the answer to any of our current worries and it's just a waste of a list spot, salary cap and draft picks. Makes no sense so I'm sure we'll do it.
What do you mean Lobb isn't the answer to any of our worries? Half the discussion on here for the last 3 years is how we need both a viable second ruck option and another target to help take the pressure of Naughton. He is clearly the answer to two of our worries.
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I think that is the point, it closes down options for the younger forward like Marra and Darcy although we probably have the same problem when Hannan returns
Originally Posted by
chef
Yep, I think thats the most logical step. We've got to think about Darcy too who'll start playing firsts games next season.
Worrying about him holding back Darcy and JUH is fine I guess, but there will 100% be a spot for them if they are good enough, and we can't simultaneously bemoan how bad our forward line is and how its lacking quality options while turning back a proven established forward because we want to pump games into two players that have yet to show they can deliver at the level.
He's not even that expensive if that contract is true.
I should leave it alone but you're not right
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