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05-10-2022, 03:10 PM
#1651
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
At what point is Brisbane dealing in bad faith? They haven’t really made any effort at all to put together a decent offer yet.
Imagine how #brandDunks is feeling about now ...
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05-10-2022, 03:11 PM
#1652
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
I'd be very disappointed with that. I know his value is somewhat subdued not being contracted, but maybe a Future Pick 16 and Future 25 seems way low. Unless there's a player coming to us we want.
who would they part with that we would take?
Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket
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05-10-2022, 03:13 PM
#1653
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
This one doesn't make a lot of sense to me but this is from Clark and McGowan on the HUN
COULD GIANTS PICKS GET DUNKLEY TO LIONS?
Brisbane and Greater Western Sydney have agreed on a deal that could help the Lions’ pursuit of Western Bulldogs midfielder Josh Dunkley.
News Corp can reveal the Lions were shopping pick 15 to rival clubs and have found a trade partner in the Giants, who will send them No.21 and a future second-round selection in return.
The trade is awaiting AFL approval but is expected to get the green light.
Brisbane now has more flexibility to trade future picks, with league rules preventing clubs from trading a future first and second-round selection unless they bring an extra one in.
The Bulldogs want two first-round picks from the Lions for Dunkley.
No need for the qualifier GVGjr. It's puzzling. Unless they want to do a future first and 2 future seconds? Not sure that's quite the same as 2 first. Not what we asked for.
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05-10-2022, 03:15 PM
#1654
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
The Doctor
who would they part with that we would take?
I'm not sure. I just see that (circa) Future Pick 16 & Future Pick 25 is way, way unders.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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05-10-2022, 03:16 PM
#1655
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
That 15 was surely what we asked for.
Dunks is staying.
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05-10-2022, 03:16 PM
#1656
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
I'm not sure. I just see that (circa) Future Pick 16 & Future Pick 25 is way, way unders.
Massive unders.
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05-10-2022, 03:20 PM
#1657
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Massive unders.
Yep otherwise it is back to us Dunks or North. Take your pick.
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05-10-2022, 03:22 PM
#1658
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
The Doctor
who would they part with that we would take?
Is Tom Fullarton our Rory Lobb back up plan? OOC, 200cm ruck/forward
Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers
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05-10-2022, 03:22 PM
#1659
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
At this point the Lions are trying to have their cake and eat it too. We were obviously asking them to give us pick 15 and extras so they took pick 15 out of the picture so we have to settle on far less.
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05-10-2022, 03:23 PM
#1660
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
hujsh
No need for the qualifier GVGjr. It's puzzling. Unless they want to do a future first and 2 future seconds? Not sure that's quite the same as 2 first. Not what we asked for.
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
I'm not sure. I just see that (circa) Future Pick 16 & Future Pick 25 is way, way unders.
A lateral guess.
GWS move from Pick 21, into Pick 15. While giving up a future second. But that future second is just a shuffle down a little bit.
Three way trade:
GWS: In: Pick 15, Future 2nd (Dogs), Salary Cap Relief
Bris: In: Dunkley (Future First & Second)
Dogs: In: Future 1st (Bris), Future Second (GWS), Nick Haynes ??
GWS: Out: Pick 21, Future 2nd
Bris Out: First 2021, First 2022
Dogs Out: Dunkley, Future 2nd
GWS add the player, not Brisbane - possibly a salary cap dump type trade - Nick Haynes name is coming up. They shuffle future seconds, upgrade from this year's second round into the first round and get salary cap relief by dumping Haynes (or another player?).
GWS do pretty well. Brisbane get Dunkley. We get a first rounder, plus a player and second rounder.
Edit:
GWS save a shitload of cap. 2022 Picks 3, 12, 15, 19, 44 (Future 3rd for Hill, Shuffle of future second rounder.) - Plus Hopper deal.
Brisbane land Dunkley, Gunston, Ashcroft & Fletcher
Dogs get First & Second Round plus mature player defend to pair with Jones. (Or other player)
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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05-10-2022, 03:28 PM
#1661
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
A lateral guess.
GWS move from Pick 21, into Pick 15. While giving up a future second. But that future second is just a shuffle down a little bit.
Three way trade:
GWS: In: Pick 15, Future 2nd (Dogs), Salary Cap Relief
Bris: In: Dunkley (Future First & Second)
Dogs: In: Future 1st (Bris), Future Second (GWS), Nick Haynes ??
GWS: Out: Pick 21, Future 2nd
Bris Out: First 2021, First 2022
Dogs Out: Dunkley, Future 2nd
GWS add the player, not Brisbane - possibly a salary cap dump type trade - Nick Haynes name is coming up. They shuffle future seconds, upgrade from this year's second round into the first round and get salary cap relief by dumping Haynes (or another player?).
GWS do pretty well. Brisbane get Dunkley. We get a first rounder, plus a player and second rounder.
Stop making sense of the strange machinations of AFL list managers. They are mystical, incomprehensible, ephemeral beings we cannot hope to comprehend
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05-10-2022, 03:30 PM
#1662
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Brisbane have sold pick 15 to GWS
For pick 21 & F2
Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket
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05-10-2022, 03:32 PM
#1663
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
Testekill
At this point the Lions are trying to have their cake and eat it too. We were obviously asking them to give us pick 15 and extras so they took pick 15 out of the picture so we have to settle on far less.
Trade is confirmed now:
Trade paperwork lodged.
The GWS Giants trade its Round Two Selection (21) and its 2023 Round Two Selection to the Brisbane Lions for its Round One Selection (15).
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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05-10-2022, 03:34 PM
#1664
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
GWS: In: Pick 15, Future 2nd (Dogs), Salary Cap Relief
Not happy with this deal, two years ago we wanted two first rounders.
His football is quality and he has just won our B&F, would take 15 and a quality ready to go player.
It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.
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05-10-2022, 03:34 PM
#1665
Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022
Originally Posted by
hujsh
Stop making sense of the strange machinations of AFL list managers. They are mystical, incomprehensible, ephemeral beings we cannot hope to comprehend
We might need to maybe add our future third at a push depending on GWS player salary. But this is making the most sense for all three clubs getting something from the trade, assuming our wishes are involved.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023