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    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Hasn't played a game in 2 years for one of the bottom teams and I think he's been fit most of that time.

    He sort of sounds like a KPD version of Schache in that he lacks some athleticism and competitiveness.
    Quote Originally Posted by hujsh View Post
    Pass then. Dogs supporter or not, that doesn't sound like someone Bevo would pick (and sounds frustrating to have in the team)
    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Days View Post
    Without having seen him play in a couple of years McAsey’s SANFL stat lines read like a guy being hidden in the forward line u13s style.
    Fair enough, pass as well.
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    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by Scraggers View Post
    I remember we were keen on him leading up to his draft. Haven't heard anything about him since.
    I'm not sure how genuinely interested in him we might have been. I think there might have been a wait and see if Adelaide can make a player out of him thought process.

    A classic example of a players height not performance or ability peaking an interest.
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    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    I know this is from Rendell but his take on McAsey:

    “I DIDN’T HAVE HIM THERE”: FORMER AFL RECRUITER QUESTIONS CROWS’ TOP DRAFT PICK

    Former AFL recruiter Matt Rendell says he would have gone in a different direction to the Crows’ choice of drafting Fischer McAsey with Pick 6 in 2019.

    McAsey was Adelaide’s first pick in the National Draft that year but has so far failed to live up to expectations. The 21-year-old is currently plying his trade in the SANFL, and despite being drafted as a key defender, he has been playing further up the ground in the reserves.

    McAsey has played eight games in the SANFL in 2022 and is yet to demonstrate the consistent form that would make him hard to overlook for AFL selection.

    Rendell, a former recruiter at Collingwood, had key concerns about McAsey’s viability at the elite level.

    “I was at Collingwood that year, I didn’t have him there,” Rendell told SEN SA’s The Run Home.

    “I was really doubtful about him as a key back, he played key back a lot of that year, even though I didn’t do the draft that year, I did futures, but I saw him play enough while I was watching the 17-year-olds.

    “I was really worried about him playing that key back role, I just didn’t think he had enough agility, athleticism, spunk about him (and) hard-nosed competitiveness for that role.”

    Thankfully for the Crows, Jordon Butts and Nick Murray have emerged and held down the key defensive roles for the majority of the past 18 months, supporting Tom Doedee.

    However, the club has still conceded the fifth-most points in 2022.

    Despite questioning McAsey’s attributes, Rendell understands the decision to draft the youngster with their first pick at the time.

    “They were losing all their key backs, they really had no one. (Butts) has been one of the great gets, and Nick Murray, they got them for (nothing) and they’re holding down key back roles,” he continued.

    “They didn’t expect that, so they were probably spooked into going that key back at that pick because they probably thought, ‘Well, we desperately need one, and he’s the best one around’, and he probably was at the time.

    “(But) I probably would have gone a different way at the time.”

    McAsey, a Victorian, was linked with a trade home in 2021 before signing a two-year contract extension.

    He played all 10 of his AFL games in 2020, averaging 6.4 disposals and 2.1 marks a match.

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    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    Is he another Schache type ?
    I will never see #16 the same!!

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    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by DOG GOD View Post
    Is he another Schache type ?
    I would suggest McAsey is not good enough to be mentioned with Schache.
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    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog Joe View Post
    I would suggest McAsey is not good enough to be mentioned with Schache.
    From an intensity level perhaps the comparison is OK but Schache played 27 games in his first two seasons at Brisbane.
    Games for Schache dried up once Bruce arrived.
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    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by DOG GOD View Post
    Is he another Schache type ?
    Don't draft intercept defenders masquerading as key defenders.

    Draft rule # 2.
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    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by mjp View Post
    Don't draft intercept defenders masquerading as key defenders.

    Draft rule # 2.
    is Draft rule #1 draft best available?

    Gee it would be good for you to list your ten draft commandments (or however many) in the spare 30 seconds a day you have between coaching and your business.

    I had Draft rule #2 in mind when watching DGB against Tom Lynch on the weekend. It also makes sense why DGB has been in and out of the Hawks team.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by mjp View Post
    Don't draft intercept defenders masquerading as key defenders.

    Draft rule # 2.
    Does anyone develop key defenders at under age level?

    Seems like they're all intercept types now.

    Trying to think of good young KPDs.

    De Koning? He was touted as an intercept defender.
    McKay?

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    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    Does anyone develop key defenders at under age level?

    Seems like they're all intercept types now.

    Trying to think of good young KPDs.

    De Koning? He was touted as an intercept defender.
    McKay?
    Most of the good talls seem to play forward as juniors.

    I know Naughton is an exception to that, but generally the better players want to get in the action at a young age.

    The later developers might learn to defend more.
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    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    is Draft rule #1 draft best available?
    Draft Rule #1: Pick a player because you want the player - not because you want what you THINK they might turn into.
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    Fisher is an odd first name. I wonder how he ended up with it?
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    Fisher is an odd first name. I wonder how he ended up with it?
    Before BAD gets you it's Fischer and I'm going to go out on a limb and say his parents named him that.

    Apparently it is a very common German surname meaning fisherman.

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    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    This one on SEN

    Could Fremantle make a big play for Hawthorn star forward Jack Gunston? Club great Paul Hasleby believes it could be on the cards.

    The Dockers look likely to lose key players in the trade period as they attempt to bring in Melbourne ruckman Luke Jackson, including key forward Rory Lobb to the Western Bulldogs.

    Hasleby does not see Jackson as a Lobb replacement, saying Freo needs to target other forwards to replace him.

    “They have to be up to something right now the Fremantle Dockers,” Hasleby told SEN WA’s The Run Home.

    “We know Rory Lobb is likely to exit the club and it doesn’t make sense just to replace him with Luke Jackson. They need somebody else from a forward perspective.

    “I’m not ruling out somebody like Jack Gunston from Hawthorn.

    “He’ll be 31 next year, he’s an unrestricted free agent, so the Dockers can get him without compensation, with a nice offer of maybe two years, maybe even three years.

    “He’s that mid-sized player, he’s not the traditional key forward, but he’s the missing piece for Fremantle taking their game from sixth position to maybe having a real crack next year at the premiership with his experience.

    Jackson then comes in, hopefully a fit Matthew Taberner, another pre-season in the gym for Jye Amiss, it makes a lot of sense for them to be targeting that type of player and asking the question ‘would you like to move West’.”

    Out of contract swingman Griffin Logue is likely to depart the Dockers at the end of the season, according to Hasleby.

    The former midfielder believes bigger offers have come Logue’s way while Freo was busy dealing with contract conundrums elsewhere.

    “I think he’ll be out. I think he’ll go to another club, and you can’t blame him,” Hasleby said.

    “My understanding is at the start of the year he was happy to sign a modest two-year deal. Fremantle at that stage were still taking in all the information around Luke Jackson and the compensation and they said ‘let’s just wait a bit’.

    “As with every player that just sits there and is unsigned, interest from other clubs comes forward.

    “I think Logue has shown in his short time in the AFL that he’s a very good defender against the key forwards, but also some of the mid-sized forwards.

    “As that unfolded, I reckon he’s now got big contract offers in front of him from four or five clubs – and I’m talking four or five year deals, maybe up around $500,000-$600,000 for his services.”

    Fremantle will be hoping to lock in a top four finish following Round 23’s clash with GWS.
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    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    Gunston would’ve been the ideal replacement for Bruce this year.

    I hope we are one of the 4-5 clubs into Logue.
    I will never see #16 the same!!

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