Always Right Match Committee Round 10 v Gold Coast at Mars on Saturday Morning

[azabob]

English doesn’t want to play forward. That is fairly obvious and was made clear through his management team.

[Grantysghost]

English doesn’t want to play forward. That is fairly obvious and was made clear through his management team.

Yes I think that's the issue. Tail wagging the dog?

He doesn't seem like an unreasonable type so I'm sure if Bevo went that way then he wouldn't spit the dummy (Dunks plays a lot forward now for eg).
Guess a good problem to have.

[comrade]

English doesn’t want to play forward. That is fairly obvious and was made clear through his management team.

I understand that, but we don’t have the list to accomodate this request and still be a premiership contender.

You could make an argument that it’s worth giving in to his demand this year to keep him happy so he signs, but we then must pay whatever price it takes to get in a suitable second ruck/forward option over the trade period. Write 2022 off for a tilt over the next 2 years.

It’s what we should have done last year but didn’t and the structure is clearly broken because of it.

[Grantysghost]

I understand that, but we don’t have the list to accomodate this request and still be a premiership contender.

You could make an argument that it’s worth giving in to his demand this year to keep him happy so he signs, but we then must pay whatever price it takes to get in a suitable second ruck/forward option over the trade period. Write 2022 off for a tilt over the next 2 years.

It’s what we should have done last year but didn’t and the structure is clearly broken because of it.

I'd like to see more of Sweet at the level first. I mean he was against literally no one last night. I don't even know the guys name.
Witts will be a better indicator considering by all reports he wasn't really faring all that well in the VFL. (hey that rhymes!).

[Go_Dogs]

If English is in, Sweet is out. But sounds like English is another week off at least so… not a problem for now.

My thoughts are McComb and McNeil on the edges. If Jones or Bedendo have good games today would be tempting to bring one in.

Cleary holds his spot, and Weat moved ahead of McComb on last nights showing.

[Danjul]

How would you fit both he and English in the side Danjul?

I thought he was pretty good last night too has a bit of a presence outside his game play.

I think we need to persist with English in the ruck so the question is can Sweet play the forward / ruck role?

I see Sweet as as second ruck being a significant improvement on Cordy, who’s basically just going through the motions with little real impact on the game. When Sweet is in the ruck those around him display confidence and things happen.

Thinking outside the square should be able to generate a game plan that accomodates both English and Sweet, but egos should not be part of the deliberations. And when Sweet has been given as many games to ‘find his feet’ as Gardner or McNeil got he should be significantly better.

[Danjul]

English doesn’t want to play forward. That is fairly obvious and was made clear through his management team.

Let’s be realistic about English and the ruck.

He has improved a lot recently, thanks to being given every possible opportunity over the last few years. But as recently as late last year he was mauled by Gawn (56 hitouts to 14). English’s strength is around the ground, kicking goals and stopping opposition attacks into their forward line.

Time to think in terms of what makes the team better.

In last night’s game there were times when Sweet made good position ahead of the ball and was completely ignored because he is not part of the fabric of the team. He, and the team (including English), will be better after he has had a run of 10 consecutive games. 12 months between games is a farce.

[Happy Days]

English is a better ruck than Sweet. Let’s not go crazy because Sweet beat up on Aidan Begg and Darcy Cameron.

[G-Mo77]

English is a better ruck than Sweet. Let’s not go crazy because Sweet beat up on Aidan Begg and Darcy Cameron.

He's not a #1 ruck either, he's a backup and would fill the role better than a washed up Martin.

[G-Mo77]

I'd like to see more of Sweet at the level first. I mean he was against literally no one last night. I don't even know the guys name.
Witts will be a better indicator considering by all reports he wasn't really faring all that well in the VFL. (hey that rhymes!).

Witts is one of the best rucks going around nowdays. So a guy who has played a whoping 5 games gets whomped by Witts then he's no good? Is that the theme I'm reading?

Far out.

[Grantysghost]

Witts is one of the best rucks going around nowdays. So a guy who has played a whoping 5 games gets whomped by Witts then he's no good? Is that the theme I'm reading?

Far out.

No I said it would be a better indicator rather than a couple of unknowns, is that a fair comment?

[G-Mo77]

No I said it would be a better indicator rather than a couple of unknowns, is that a fair comment?

But again he's played 5 games. Witts will towel him up this week but he'll be better for it long term. Do we pull the rug out from under him like we did after Gawn belted him last year? He moved well around the ground, clogged defence when needed and he has the ability to push forward when needed. Why can't we play English and let Sweet backup? Is our current structure a better option? Cordy? Hannan? Bont? As our backups

[whythelongface]

But again he's played 5 games. Witts will towel him up this week but he'll be better for it long term. Do we pull the rug out from under him like we did after Gawn belted him last year? He moved well around the ground, clogged defence when needed and he has the ability to push forward when needed. Why can't we play English and let Sweet backup? Is our current structure a better option? Cordy? Hannan? Bont? As our backups

Yeah agree. Would like to see them play together. When English rests he can go forward whilst Sweet can go the bench when English is rucking. Not the most efficient use of the bench or our talks but one that could work.

[Jeanette54]

One of Sweet's big attributes last night was his second efforts after the ruck duel. Channeling his inner Benny Hudson, his big frame planted firmly in the centre melee after a non decisive ruck contest. There were times when he almost willed a Bulldog clearance. And that tap to Bont in the last quarter was a thing of joy.

[Danjul]

English is a better ruck than Sweet. Let’s not go crazy because Sweet beat up on Aidan Begg and Darcy Cameron.

Agreed, but it took English 50 games to be consistently better than Sweet was last night. Let’s give Sweet a fraction of that to show what he is worth.