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02-06-2022, 01:11 PM
#136
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Joe
Unfortunately, Sweet can only contribute at the stoppage and this represents a liability when he is playing second fiddle to English.
If he could develop to be any threat forward this would change.
With rotations we can't really afford to have a player limited to contributing for about 20-25% game time.
You mean like Zaine Cordy?
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02-06-2022, 01:24 PM
#137
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Forgetting about list management, and players we don't have, what is your solution for tomorrow and the rest of the season for the 2nd ruck role? For me, it can't be Hannan, or Dunkley, or any other mid.
For mine, I think we do whatever it takes to give our midfield an advantage at ALL times. Play to your strengths. That's the only way we compete at the top end and potentially win the flag. If we were so hellbent on "flexibility", why bother getting Treloar? We got him to exploit a clear strength further. I liked that. Exploit. your. strengths. I can live with losing in that manner.
That means no Cordy, no Schache, no Hannan, no Dunkley as second ruck. It doesn't work. That is a KNOWN. Move on from this tactic.
My first preference is we play the English/Sweet combination. I 'get' all the calls about Sweet, but if he's on the list and has been on the list all this time, it's about time we figure out if he's worth persisting with. He obviously isn't taking over Tim, so let's see how we can make it work with him as the second ruck/forward. The reality is our other options are contributing next to nothing in any position on the ground (Cordy and Schache) and Martin is finished.
If Sweet needs to be somewhat managed at times, fine. But let's give our players some confidence in a structure - THIS is what we are, THIS is our identity.
At the end of the year if we're still worried about Sweet and the second ruck position, ADDRESS IT. But until then, let's see if we can get an advantage because the reality is that if our midfield wins the battle OR breaks even, we win most games we play.
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02-06-2022, 01:35 PM
#138
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night
Well said TBB. However if they bring in another tall player I hope the give Schache another go. His efforts in the VFL have been better. And he has flexibility to play multiple roles for us.
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02-06-2022, 03:05 PM
#139
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night
Originally Posted by
1eyedog
You mean like Zaine Cordy?
Cordy does provide some pressure presence and is better without the ball than Sweet.
My preference is Schache for this week as he can get a goal and had the best performance of the options last week.
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02-06-2022, 03:29 PM
#140
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Joe
Cordy does provide some pressure presence and is better without the ball than Sweet.
My preference is Schache for this week as he can get a goal and had the best performance of the options last week.
Schache was really showing something in the key back role last season but he had a howler and was dropped. He also went forward a few times and hit the scoreboard. I thought Bevo liked flexibility and I'm surprised he hasn't been given more opportunities.
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02-06-2022, 03:34 PM
#141
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night
Originally Posted by
1eyedog
Schache was really showing something in the key back role last season but he had a howler and was dropped. He also went forward a few times and hit the scoreboard. I thought Bevo liked flexibility and I'm surprised he hasn't been given more opportunities.
Schache more than other players would benefit from playing in a winning team perhaps, give him confidence that he can have a crack.
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02-06-2022, 03:46 PM
#142
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night
Originally Posted by
BornInDroopSt'54
Schache more than other players would benefit from playing in a winning team perhaps, give him confidence that he can have a crack.
This is a good point, we have tended to drop him on the back of one poor performance, If possible an extended run might be the right tonic for him.
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02-06-2022, 03:49 PM
#143
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
This is a good point, we have tended to drop him on the back of one poor performance, If possible an extended run might be the right tonic for him.
Last time we dropped him was on the back of a good performance, on the back line for half then the forward line for 2 goals.
We drop Schache because we can. Don’t need a reason.
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02-06-2022, 03:56 PM
#144
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night
From the Bevo presser a few take outs:
-I don't think Marra will play. When asked about Marra Bevo said that it is difficult to change the team this week. He said there are many things that some players are doing which contribute to the team success but not necessarily the stat sheet.
-Baz is fit and firing and will definitely come in. He also said that the club has currently had a good run with illness, all clear.
-He mentioned it was the first time that Sweet and English had played together where English was the primary ruck and Sweet was the back up and had to pinch hit forward. He said Jordan had been solid in the ruck for the last two weeks so it is a good sign if Tim isn't available that Sweety can fill a role. That gave me the imporession that Sweet is not playing this week.
-Bevo also mentioned that JJ only played 75% of the game in the VFL and needs to get through a full game at state level before he can be considered.
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02-06-2022, 04:32 PM
#145
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night
I've just watched an old Dogs v Cats game on Fox, and the Cats seemed to have great difficulty matching up on Josh Schache. He kicked multiple goals, and was a great contributor to our win. It was the game where Harry Taylor missed a set shot after the siren to give us the win.
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02-06-2022, 04:44 PM
#146
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night
Originally Posted by
Jeanette54
I've just watched an old Dogs v Cats game on Fox, and the Cats seemed to have great difficulty matching up on Josh Schache. He kicked multiple goals, and was a great contributor to our win. It was the game where Harry Taylor missed a set shot after the siren to give us the win.
With angelopetraglia suggesting no Marra maybe Josh gets a go but angelopetraglia reporting bevo saying 'difficult to change the team' yet Sweet likely out...hmm
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02-06-2022, 04:50 PM
#147
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night
Bevo could be foxing when q? about Marra 'difficult to change the team'.
If Sweet out surely a biggie forward comes in Marra/Loveshack.
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02-06-2022, 05:01 PM
#148
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night
Following on from the press conference, I can see only Baz coming in.
But, who goes out? Maybe McComb
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02-06-2022, 05:24 PM
#149
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Following on from the press conference, I can see only Baz coming in.
But, who goes out? Maybe McComb
Marra was training in the super domestique guernsey this week he's a lock.
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02-06-2022, 05:34 PM
#150
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night
Originally Posted by
1eyedog
Marra was training in the super domestique guernsey this week he's a lock.
So was West. Which I found unsual. Is there a domestique for the VFL and AFL each week?