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11-06-2022, 11:45 AM
#181
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Well you could argue with a better structure we would've kicked more considering the inside 50s.
Agree re cats. I hate the we got close bs to be honest I hear it so often.
Yes we got close, then guess what. Geelong did what they had to do a sealed it after defending for two quarters or more.
You could also argue with a different structure we wouldn't have closed the ground down as well as we did.
Anyway, we messed things up in the first quarter and suffered the consequences of doing so.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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11-06-2022, 11:51 AM
#182
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night
Originally Posted by
jeemak
You could also argue with a different structure we wouldn't have closed the ground down as well as we did.
Anyway, we messed things up in the first quarter and suffered the consequences of doing so.
touché
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11-06-2022, 11:51 AM
#183
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Joe
Schache would be more of a forward target than Sweet.
BJ, Schache should play as a permanent forward.
I’m advocating for both to play this week. I’ve been very consistent with that in this thread.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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11-06-2022, 11:52 AM
#184
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Man that sucks.
Tiddlywinks has always been known for being over-officiated but that's just ridiculous.
Chess you philistine. I'm an intellectual.
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
That's shizen! When little people get power they go a bit crazy.
I was leading goal kicker 1998,1999.
No trophy.
Didnt affect me, at all, I mean nothing, I'm fine, who needs a trophy anyway?
The guy who was the top scorer played in the other team, and the season head to head was 1-1 so it was predicted to be a rumble.
Also, they weren't going to let one of our big guys play because he wasn't wearing socks. Can you believe that? Even after I gave him my socks, they still were reluctant to let him play.
Oddly enough, the top scorer on the other team? It was his Mum that was the head official of the league and was the one making these calls. Just, what are the chances?
I've got a bunch of trophies at home, I can send you one if you like?
"It's over. It's all over."
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11-06-2022, 11:55 AM
#185
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night
I threw my trophies out, if I'd have known GG I'd have sent them your way.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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11-06-2022, 11:58 AM
#186
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
Chess you philistine. I'm an intellectual.
The guy who was the top scorer played in the other team, and the season head to head was 1-1 so it was predicted to be a rumble.
Also, they weren't going to let one of our big guys play because he wasn't wearing socks. Can you believe that? Even after I gave him my socks, they still were reluctant to let him play.
Oddly enough, the top scorer on the other team? It was his Mum that was the head official of the league and was the one making these calls. Just, what are the chances?
I've got a bunch of trophies at home, I can send you one if you like?
How deep does the u/16 eastern league conspiracy go..! Mein gott.
Look thanks for all the trophy sharing but I've moved on... I don't even think about it.
Maybe send a picture just in case I change my mind.
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11-06-2022, 01:01 PM
#187
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night
When Schache plays poorly, I eagerly await the calls to drop him.
I'm not saying Sweet is a great option - clearly that isn't the case - but posters using his stats v WCE don't seem to hold others to that same account (Khamis has barely touched it for weeks, Cordy still has his defenders despite never touching it).
Last week Buku played solely as second ruck - pointless.
Even if Schache spends time forward, rest assured he won't be as effective because we're also asking him to ruck (where, frankly, he sucks).
Sweets value to the side is that it allows us to keep KPP in their preferred spots.
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11-06-2022, 03:15 PM
#188
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Joe
Sweet did deserve to be dropped.
English is so far ahead as first ruck that Sweet needs to be forward/second ruck and he is not effective at that.
Schache performed exceptionally well at Footscray as forward/second ruck and deserves the spot over Buku. Sweet shouldn't even be in the conversation.
Agree, bring Schache in
Originally Posted by
azabob
How’d our forward line operate against Geelong with only Naughton as a target?
Rather than focus on Sweets stats I focus on what else he brings to the team. Interestingly the one stat you should judge Sweet on is one you neglected to mention. 16 hit outs.
Focusing only on disposals is an extremely selfish way to play a team game.
Needs to do more than 16 hitouts
Originally Posted by
azabob
So your happy with our forward structure with Naughton as our sole target inside 50?
No BJ said Schache to come in and support in the Fwd line
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11-06-2022, 03:44 PM
#189
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Well you could argue with a better structure we would've kicked more considering the inside 50s.
Agree re cats. I hate the we got close bs to be honest I hear it so often.
Yes we got close, then guess what. Geelong did what they had to do a sealed it after defending for two quarters or more.
Yeah, I kind of agree. It's nice we weren't belted but comes across as fools gold and people put stock in that.
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11-06-2022, 03:46 PM
#190
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Needs to do more than 16 hitouts
So let's drop him and not let him play again. That will do his development wonders won't it.
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11-06-2022, 03:52 PM
#191
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
When Schache plays poorly, I eagerly await the calls to drop him.
I'm not saying Sweet is a great option - clearly that isn't the case - but posters using his stats v WCE don't seem to hold others to that same account (Khamis has barely touched it for weeks, Cordy still has his defenders despite never touching it).
Last week Buku played solely as second ruck - pointless.
Even if Schache spends time forward, rest assured he won't be as effective because we're also asking him to ruck (where, frankly, he sucks).
Sweets value to the side is that it allows us to keep KPP in their preferred spots.
That's it right there. If the measuring stick is Khamis last week or Cordy in half a season. Why was Sweet's game against West Coast a get him the f out of the team situation for you guys? We get nothing anyway, why not use that to develop someone so it's something.
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11-06-2022, 03:52 PM
#192
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
When Schache plays poorly, I eagerly await the calls to drop him.
I'm not saying Sweet is a great option - clearly that isn't the case - but posters using his stats v WCE don't seem to hold others to that same account (Khamis has barely touched it for weeks, Cordy still has his defenders despite never touching it).
Last week Buku played solely as second ruck - pointless.
Even if Schache spends time forward, rest assured he won't be as effective because we're also asking him to ruck (where, frankly, he sucks).
Sweets value to the side is that it allows us to keep KPP in their preferred spots.
Khamis, who I think has potential, got 3 goals when Sweet opened up the midfielders and they got the ball into the forward line quickly. What was Sweet’s reward? Being replaced in the ruck by Khamis who had never rucked at that level.
Let’s just face reality. At the club Sweet is a nonevent.
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11-06-2022, 03:57 PM
#193
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night
Originally Posted by
G-Mo77
So let's drop him and not let him play again. That will do his development wonders won't it.
I just think 6 disposals is not enough in the role he plays. He can develop in the VFL, and may come good as he matures.
In 8 games of AFL, he is averaging 8 disposals a game.
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11-06-2022, 04:00 PM
#194
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night
Originally Posted by
Danjul
Let’s just face reality. At the club Sweet is a nonevent.
If he was why would we contract him till end of next year? We need him to develop at VFL level at this stage.
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Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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11-06-2022, 04:11 PM
#195
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Joe
Schache would be more of a forward target than Sweet.
I think Schache should not have been dropped after being one of the better players against Adelaide. But he got results as a forward and backman.
So now we want him as a ruckman? Schache is not a ruckman. Putting him in the ruck for 25% of the game will do two things.
1. rob the forward line of some talent.
2. give the opposition rucks a boost.
It will also put him off his game for the rest of the game (negative) and justify sending him back to the seconds for the rest of the season (a positive for the thousands who thought dropping him last time was smart).
So before I go let me simply spell it out. Schache is not a ruckman.