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    Question Three things you've learnt. Round eleven v West Coast Eagles 2022

    So. Come on then. Three things you found out tonight.
    Have you been reading those Roddy Doyle books again, Dougal!?


    I have, yeah Ted, you big gobshite

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    Re: Three things you've learnt. Round eleven v West Coast Eagles 2022

    1. Tim English is soOOO important. His a good ruck and plays as an extra midfield. If we can get a 10% improvement in Sweet , watch out the ruck duo!

    2. 16 goal kickers, 7 of which multiple goal kickers. Keith with multiple goals. Extraordinary number of goals, Big % booster. If we win next week, Cats would drop a few places!

    3. When there is all round team performance we can bury teams. .

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    Re: Three things you've learnt. Round eleven v West Coast Eagles 2022

    1. Can see why Bevo isn’t a fan of sweet. Unless he’s playing ruck he is nowhere near it

    2. Really pleasing to see rhylee west developing and getting better but by big each week. Very good tonight

    3. I want to see that level of transition, spread and contested ball winning against a top 8 side

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    Re: Three things you've learnt. Round eleven v West Coast Eagles 2022

    1. We did the job that we needed to do, but don't get carried away by this win, Westcoast are at a very low ebb.
    2. West earned his selection once again.
    3. Based on tonight, I can't see Sweet getting it done against Stanley and Blicavs.

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    Re: Three things you've learnt. Round eleven v West Coast Eagles 2022

    1. Tim is our number one ruck that is without a doubt.

    2. Sweety needs forward coaching during the week if he wants to stay in.

    3. McNeil can kick it long and accurately.

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    Re: Three things you've learnt. Round eleven v West Coast Eagles 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog4life View Post
    1. Tim is our number one ruck that is without a doubt.

    2. Sweety needs forward coaching during the week if he wants to stay in.

    3. McNeil can kick it long and accurately.
    Do you really think his issues can be fixed in a week? He looks horrible as a forward for Footscray and if you can’t touch it when your team wins by over 100 points and you have almost 70 inside 50’s then you’re in trouble.

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    Re: Three things you've learnt. Round eleven v West Coast Eagles 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    Do you really think his issues can be fixed in a week? He looks horrible as a forward for Footscray and if you can’t touch it when your team wins by over 100 points and you have almost 70 inside 50’s then you’re in trouble.
    Yep. 100%. He is competitive and physical at the ruck contest but is basically like playing a man down around the ground.

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    Re: Three things you've learnt. Round eleven v West Coast Eagles 2022

    Agree. The issue is he is an ok tap ruckman but not setting the world alight. Tough to prioritise over English in the ruck contests with how Tim is playing this year and that just leaves him in nomans land

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    Re: Three things you've learnt. Round eleven v West Coast Eagles 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by AshMac View Post
    Agree. The issue is he is an ok tap ruckman but not setting the world alight. Tough to prioritise over English in the ruck contests with how Tim is playing this year and that just leaves him in nomans land
    Timmy has just taken himself to a new level this year. I still question his ability to handle the really elite, physical rucks but outside of Gawn and maybe one or two others, he’ll just leave the rest for dust now.

    We’re absolutely desperate for a decent #2 ruck/forward to provide a chop out and maintain structure. Doesn’t even have to be of the Jackson/Marshall caliber, just an improvement on Cordy/Sweet/Hannan etc. Darcy may be the perfect player for this but we need one now, not in 2-3 years.
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    Re: Three things you've learnt. Round eleven v West Coast Eagles 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    Timmy has just taken himself to a new level this year. I still question his ability to handle the really elite, physical rucks but outside of Gawn and maybe one or two others, he’ll just leave the rest for dust now.

    We’re absolutely desperate for a decent #2 ruck/forward to provide a chop out and maintain structure. Doesn’t even have to be of the Jackson/Marshall caliber, just an improvement on Cordy/Sweet/Hannan etc. Darcy may be the perfect player for this but we need one now, not in 2-3 years.
    If only Schache was that player. Has the height and forward craft but not the physical hardness. Sounds like he is going ok at VFL level. Are we better off with a tap ruckman that doesn’t provide much around the ground or a forward who we know can play but is not necessarily physical enough to compete as a ruck? If Shaq could hold his own in the ruck then option 2 is the better option. He can also play in defence.

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    Re: Three things you've learnt. Round eleven v West Coast Eagles 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by whythelongface View Post
    If only Schache was that player. Has the height and forward craft but not the physical hardness. Sounds like he is going ok at VFL level. Are we better off with a tap ruckman that doesn’t provide much around the ground or a forward who we know can play but is not necessarily physical enough to compete as a ruck? If Shaq could hold his own in the ruck then option 2 is the better option. He can also play in defence.
    Shaq has the right dimensions and physical attributes but holding your own in the ruck seems like it’s more mindset based than other roles. Compelling yourself to just jump into another massive unit, cop knees and elbows in uncomfortable spots all day, wrestle and compete etc. It requires an aggressive and proactive attitude and it’s that element that Shaq lacks (also why he struggles and disappears when playing forward at times).

    Cordy has the right sort of attitude (which is probably why Bevo persists) but has none of the physical attributes to be effective in the role for any length of time.

    I don’t think it’s really teachable or trainable. I reckon if you’re 200cm, you either love using your size to dominate others or you shy away from it entirely. Shaq seems the latter.
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    Re: Three things you've learnt. Round eleven v West Coast Eagles 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    Timmy has just taken himself to a new level this year. I still question his ability to handle the really elite, physical rucks but outside of Gawn and maybe one or two others, he’ll just leave the rest for dust now.

    We’re absolutely desperate for a decent #2 ruck/forward to provide a chop out and maintain structure. Doesn’t even have to be of the Jackson/Marshall caliber, just an improvement on Cordy/Sweet/Hannan etc. Darcy may be the perfect player for this but we need one now, not in 2-3 years.
    I guess the short term fix is Bruce but I believe we need someone a bit better than that. A confident Schache as whythelongface suggested would be ideal but there is a big gap between his best and worst performances.
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    Re: Three things you've learnt. Round eleven v West Coast Eagles 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    I guess the short term fix is Bruce but I believe we need someone a bit better than that. A confident Schache as whythelongface suggested would be ideal but there is a big gap between his best and worst performances.
    I don’t like Bruce doing it when he’s fully fit, and especially not after an ACL. It’s a specialist role that needs the right player to do it and we’ve neglected this for way too long.
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    Re: Three things you've learnt. Round eleven v West Coast Eagles 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    Do you really think his issues can be fixed in a week? He looks horrible as a forward for Footscray and if you can’t touch it when your team wins by over 100 points and you have almost 70 inside 50’s then you’re in trouble.
    I should have written weeks.

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    Re: Three things you've learnt. Round eleven v West Coast Eagles 2022

    1. Luke Beveridge coaching from the bench is working; hopefully he can continue it at grounds like Marvel as the players seem to be embracing it.

    2. I love, love, love our new onfield structure. Keath, Gardner and O'Brien down back, Williams and Scott on the wings. The forwards mixing up how they set up after a goal (all in single file, etc). Just another tweak or two needed. Kudos to the coaching staff recognising we needed subtle changes and making them.

    3. Aaron Naughton is a leader on field through his voice and his actions. If we can fix the second forward and ruck position he will only get better. Sky is literally the limit.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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