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Re: Heat on Bevo?
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Has anyone seen an article where the players are copping heat/ pressure yet?
Or is the game too nuanced now for even ex-footballers who recently retired to know that defending/ squeezing between the arcs is pretty much what every single team does/ needs to do, and it's the players who either don't or do execute the same plan most teams take into a game to do so?
And the stand vs. five debate is giving me the shits. Our under-sized/ under-skilled defence would be absolutely baked if players were allowed to waltz around the standing mark quickly.
I haven't seen much really singling out the players. A few scattered pieces. Most of the comments are about the about getting a key defender and how well Lobb might fit in.
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Re: Heat on Bevo?
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Has anyone seen an article where the players are copping heat/ pressure yet?
Or is the game too nuanced now for even ex-footballers who recently retired to know that defending/ squeezing between the arcs is pretty much what every single team does/ needs to do, and it's the players who either don't or do execute the same plan most teams take into a game to do so?
And the stand vs. five debate is giving me the shits. Our under-sized/ under-skilled defence would be absolutely baked if players were allowed to waltz around the standing mark quickly.
HB Meyers from the Mongrel Punt put together a piece focusing on English and how he isn’t up to being a ruck and how Beveridge is letting the team down by sticking with only one ruckman. I don’t know man, it’s acknowledged we are not good enough as a team but I guess Bevo is the head honcho and it easier to question him, the decision making and strategy?
More of an In Bruges guy?
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Re: Heat on Bevo?
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Has anyone seen an article where the players are copping heat/ pressure yet?
Or is the game too nuanced now for even ex-footballers who recently retired to know that defending/ squeezing between the arcs is pretty much what every single team does/ needs to do, and it's the players who either don't or do execute the same plan most teams take into a game to do so?
And the stand vs. five debate is giving me the shits. Our under-sized/ under-skilled defence would be absolutely baked if players were allowed to waltz around the standing mark quickly.
Mitch Hannan copped it for being a crap defender.
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Re: Heat on Bevo?
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I haven't seen much really singling out the players. A few scattered pieces. Most of the comments are about the about getting a key defender and how well Lobb might fit in.
This is the team that won three finals on the road last year. Except Richards has improved, Gardner has improved. English has improved. (Read it here)
I can see that JUH has improved. Naughton’s goal kicking has improved. I think even Schache has improved.
So what is different that could explain the drop in success apart from Young leaving?
I have my suspicions, and they don’t include a player rebellion where they are all refusing to play the game as instructed.
What is the new thing that the players are not coping with?
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Re: Heat on Bevo?
Originally Posted by
Danjul
This is the team that won three finals on the road last year. Except Richards has improved, Gardner has improved. English has improved. (Read it here)
I can see that JUH has improved. Naughton’s goal kicking has improved. I think even Schache has improved.
So what is different that could explain the drop in success apart from Young leaving?
I have my suspicions, and they don’t include a player rebellion where they are all refusing to play the game as instructed.
What is the new thing that the players are not coping with?
What’s your suspicions Danjul ?
I will never see #16 the same!!
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Re: Heat on Bevo?
Interesting that our “old guard” moved across to Freo and look at the way they are performing. We had it all in 2016. The only thing he were looking for was maturity of the playing group and Bevos ego in check
BB.
Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.
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Re: Heat on Bevo?
Some interesting stats from Bigfooty.
(credit user Oliver Gigacz)
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Re: Heat on Bevo?
Amazing really. Don't think the walking back off the mark has alot to do with those stats.
Gardner is 3rd in the comp for spoils too.....
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Re: Heat on Bevo?
On 360 Slobbo said the Hun is doing a piece on the dogs tomorrow and when asked to speak to Grant or Baines, it was declined.
I guess that’s one way to allow speculation to grow…
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Re: Heat on Bevo?
Originally Posted by
MrMahatma
On 360 Slobbo said the Hun is doing a piece on the dogs tomorrow and when asked to speak to Grant or Baines, it was declined.
I guess that’s one way to allow speculation to grow…
We really don't like doing media.
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Re: Heat on Bevo?
Originally Posted by
MrMahatma
On 360 Slobbo said the Hun is doing a piece on the dogs tomorrow and when asked to speak to Grant or Baines, it was declined.
I guess that’s one way to allow speculation to grow…
A missed opportunity. It shouldn't be just on Bevo to respond to media and both Grant and Bains need to take a turn or two at the wheel.
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Re: Heat on Bevo?
Originally Posted by
Mantis
So your opinion is the only one that we should listen to?.
Why would you write this?
I am only talking about myself and what I like and don't like.
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Re: Heat on Bevo?
Does anyone really think the heat has been on Bevo? I think it's coming if we don't win this week but it's been reasonable so far.
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Re: Heat on Bevo?
Originally Posted by
Danjul
This is the team that won three finals on the road last year. Except Richards has improved, Gardner has improved. English has improved. (Read it here)
I can see that JUH has improved. Naughton’s goal kicking has improved. I think even Schache has improved.
So what is different that could explain the drop in success apart from Young leaving?
I have my suspicions, and they don’t include a player rebellion where they are all refusing to play the game as instructed.
What is the new thing that the players are not coping with?
I think our bottom 6 are not contributing enough and supporting the rest of the team. Too much is left to a few. That is the difference from last year.
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Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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Re: Heat on Bevo?
Originally Posted by
bornadog
I think our bottom 6 are not contributing enough and supporting the rest of the team. Too much is left to a few. That is the difference from last year.
We've thinned the depth of the talent pool though and we need our better players to perform with more consistency so they drag the others along.
When you consider there has been improvement with some of the younger players of the likes of West, Richards and Weightman and some sensational form from Liberatore, B.Smith, Dale and English it opens up questions on why this has occurred.
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