Western Bulldogs’ fall from grace

[G-Mo77]

As I have said previously, no we didn't.

Apologies it's 2 years.

[jeemak]

As I have said previously, no we didn't.

How would we ever know how long he's contracted for?

[Grantysghost]

Ha.

Not really.

I don't want to lose any of our midfielders. I just want them to sacrifice their individual games for the team when it's their turn to do so and show up each week with a consistently high level of intensity.

I agree to a point, but we can't ignore the variables at play.

Melbourne have a once in a generation midfield trifecta with Gawn, Petracca and Oliver. They just played out of their skin. Petracca for me is the best player in the game currently.
Coaching? What are we doing to fix this strategically it can't be all effort based; granted from what you learned gents are saying it's a big part.

I'm loathe to be putting the boots into a group I believe is the best across any line the Dogs have had.

I guess my point is, if the effort is conditional what can we do to change that? How do we absorb those down moments better? Can we?

[1eyedog]

How would we ever know how long he's contracted for?

Would be legit worthwhile if one of us started a thread detailing the contract status of all listed players.

[Sedat]

I agree to a point, but we can't ignore the variables at play.

Melbourne have a once on a generation midfield trifecta with Gawn, Petracca and Oliver. They just played out of their skin. Petracca for me is the best player in the game currently.
Coaching? What are we doing to fix this strategically it can't be all effort based; granted from what you learned gents are saying it's a big part.

I'm loathe to be putting the boots into a group I believe is the best across any line the Dogs have had.

I guess my point is, if the effort is conditional what can we do to change that? How do we absorb those down moments better? Can we?

They were all conditional and one-way up to and including the 2020 season. They changed their mindset and they changed it big time.

[DOG GOD]

I agree to a point, but we can't ignore the variables at play.

Melbourne have a once on a generation midfield trifecta with Gawn, Petracca and Oliver. They just played out of their skin. Petracca for me is the best player in the game currently.
Coaching? What are we doing to fix this strategically it can't be all effort based; granted from what you learned gents are saying it's a big part.

I'm loathe to be putting the boots into a group I believe is the best across any line the Dogs have had.

I guess my point is, if the effort is conditional what can we do to change that? How do we absorb those down moments better? Can we?

If we have players who continually refuse to do the basics of a team game, then drop them. No matter who they are.
Let’s see how serious we are. If you want sustained success you have to play as a team, and you need 22 committed blokes to do that, to be there, play their role no matter what or where it is seen fit.

[Grantysghost]

They were all conditional and one-way up to and including the 2020 season. They changed their mindset and they changed it big time.

Ah so was that a player driven thing, better coaching (Yze) or a bit of both.

I guess the latter.

[G-Mo77]

How would we ever know how long he's contracted for?

Would be legit worthwhile if one of us started a thread detailing the contract status of all listed players.

OK I made a mistake, no need to act like dicks about it.

[jeemak]

Ah so was that a player driven thing, better coaching (Yze) or a bit of both.

I guess the latter.

Most of the really good teams that have sustained success talk about player driven standards. Brisbane, Geelong, Hawthorn and Richmond teams all talk about how committed their playing groups were to working for each other and how the players drove the mindset.

We never hear that about the Dogs.

[jeemak]

OK I made a mistake, no need to act like dicks about it.

We're teasing Axe about it, not you.

I couldn't care less if you get a player's contract length wrong.

[Sedat]

Ah so was that a player driven thing, better coaching (Yze) or a bit of both.

I guess the latter.

Bit of both I reckon. Choco Williams was a huge part of it apparently.

[DOG GOD]

Bit of both I reckon. Choco Williams was a huge part of it apparently.

No surprise there. Choco always has that look about him that you wouldn’t wanna say “no I’m not doing that”.

[Axe Man]

Petracca for me is the best player in the game currently.

I don't think he's even the best player in his team, Oliver has him covered at the moment. Petracca could be, but he still doesn't do it often enough.

[Grantysghost]

I don't think he's even the best player in his team, Oliver has him covered at the moment. Petracca could be, but he still doesn't do it often enough.

Oliver is more consistent for sure, but if I had to choose : Petracca for me.

He's like Dusty, some of the stuff he can do not many others can.

[bornadog]

I don't think he's even the best player in his team, Oliver has him covered at the moment. Petracca could be, but he still doesn't do it often enough.

agree needs to be more consistent