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Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 21 v Fremantle at Marvel on Saturday
I think Bevo will see Bruce as having improving. I do not think he should be playing, however I also believe we don't have a quality option for R2/fwd role. I'd be giving Schache more ruck time and Sweet as much forward time as possible in the VFL to see as good as a view as we can.
McComb is a tough one to get. I actually like Bevo's reward for the worker type as a benchmark for the side, like the greater good for expectations set but he just isn't good enough.
Hannan I think needs a pre-season down back. We have other options. Maybe Bevo just waiting for Doc.
In: Adz, Doc
Out: McComb, Hannan
Hannan or Cleary as the sub.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 21 v Fremantle at Marvel on Saturday
I think the ins will considered from Treloar, McLean, Dureya, Keath and possibly Darcy. The outs McComb, Hannan and not sure who else.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 21 v Fremantle at Marvel on Saturday
In
Tim English and the midfield group play an accountable 4 quarter performance, they were pathetic last night after quarter time.
If not, then English goes forward and Sweet comes in to ruck, while Bruce gets some form in the seconds.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 21 v Fremantle at Marvel on Saturday
In - Darcy who plays back and the swing man Cordy replaces Juicy on the forward 50
Sweet has to come in for Hannan. Floats between ruck/forward/bench
McClean in for McComb. I’d move Jj back behind the ball and play McClean forward
Sorry can’t see a spot for Kieth, Hunter or Bruce for the last two games
If Doc is ready. I’ld drop Daniel purely as he looked so under done it wasn’t funny
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 21 v Fremantle at Marvel on Saturday
Originally Posted by
Rocco Jones
I think Bevo will see Bruce as having improving. I do not think he should be playing, however I also believe we don't have a quality option for R2/fwd role. I'd be giving Schache more ruck time and Sweet as much forward time as possible in the VFL to see as good as a view as we can.
How about English forward? Great mark, great kick, smart player. English could be a dominant forward.
I mean do we want to win or do we want to keep English happy?
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 21 v Fremantle at Marvel on Saturday
Originally Posted by
1eyedog
How about English forward? Great mark, great kick, smart player. English could be a dominant forward.
I mean do we want to win or do we want to keep English happy?
Great mark behind the ball.
Great field kick.
Smart in many aspects of play.
As a forward I think he's okay, his marking is less good presenting at the ball and he doesn't seem a natural forward as far as finding space/leading goes. His set shot kicking doesn't strike me as super reliable despite being a good field kick.
Not saying the idea doesn't have merit from a team balance perspective but I don't think he's as good a forward as he is a ruck (when he's on, which is an issue it seems)
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 21 v Fremantle at Marvel on Saturday
Originally Posted by
Bumper Bulldogs
In - Darcy who plays back and the swing man Cordy replaces Juicy on the forward 50
Sweet has to come in for Hannan. Floats between ruck/forward/bench
McClean in for McComb. I’d move Jj back behind the ball and play McClean forward
Sorry can’t see a spot for Kieth, Hunter or Bruce for the last two games
If Doc is ready. I’ld drop Daniel purely as he looked so under done it wasn’t funny
Daniel is too good a player to be dropped. We do not have enough of his class. Richards is better suited to the half back line leaving Daniel to play in the last line of defence. He was under done against Geelong but is a far better player than that.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 21 v Fremantle at Marvel on Saturday
In:
Adz, Doc, Darcy
Out:
McComb, Hannan, Bruce
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 21 v Fremantle at Marvel on Saturday
Originally Posted by
hujsh
Great mark behind the ball.
Great field kick.
Smart in many aspects of play.
As a forward I think he's okay, his marking is less good presenting at the ball and he doesn't seem a natural forward as far as finding space/leading goes. His set shot kicking doesn't strike me as super reliable despite being a good field kick.
Not saying the idea doesn't have merit from a team balance perspective but I don't think he's as good a forward as he is a ruck (when he's on, which is an issue it seems)
I agree. We all carry on about his forward craft, but he has actually done nothing up forward to date.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 21 v Fremantle at Marvel on Saturday
Originally Posted by
hujsh
Not saying the idea doesn't have merit from a team balance perspective but I don't think he's as good a forward as he is a ruck (when he's on, which is an issue it seems)
That's the key point I reckon. English is our best option in the ruck, but is the marginal advantage he provides versus a Sweet or Martin bigger than the marginal advantage he provides as a forward versus a Bruce or Schache? I'm leaning towards keeping him in the ruck and bringing Schache in for the forward/ruck, but on current form at both levels this combination isn't that much more appealing than Martin (ruck) / English (forward) in my view. Martin's been having a big impact around the stoppages the last two weeks in the VFL, and we know that Tim will clunk a few inside fifty if provided enough time up there. Plus against Darcy the man mountain this week, could be nice to have two genuine ruckmen.
On VFL form, Hunter should have been in the side to face Geelong, so there must be something else at play keeping him out. It's a shame because I think he's a key connection player for us when up and about.
I love Toby McLean and he's working hard in the VFL but I'm not sure if he's shown enough quality in his game yet to warrant a return. From what I've seen he hasn't been super clean with his touches.
Duryea - given how disorganised and unaccountable our small defenders looked against the Cats, his leadership could be valuable.
Sam Darcy doesn't sound close to a debut based on Bevo's comments. Seems we are still in the process of trying him in a range of roles. I think he'd acquit himself okay, he's such a presence in the VFL, but can understand that he's not had much continuity in any given role, which makes it hard to throw him in the deep end with confidence that he'll swim. If we were out of contention maybe it would be an affordable luxury.
So for me it's -
In: Treloar, Schache, Duryea
Out: McComb, Bruce, Hannan
with a mind to bringing Keath and Hunter in before the end of the regular season, and keeping a close watch on the ruck dynamic at both levels.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 21 v Fremantle at Marvel on Saturday
For what it's worth, the indication is Treloar won't be or at least is very unlikely to playing against Fremantle.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 21 v Fremantle at Marvel on Saturday
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
For what it's worth, the indication is Treloar won't be or at least is very unlikely to playing against Fremantle.
Yeah, Bevo said that.
I hope he can come up.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 21 v Fremantle at Marvel on Saturday
Originally Posted by
bornadog
I agree. We all carry on about his forward craft, but he has actually done nothing up forward to date.
Has he been given a run up forward? Genuine question
I have seen him drift up forward after a centre bounce and lead well and kick straight, but I haven't seen him start up forward at a centre bounce.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 21 v Fremantle at Marvel on Saturday
Originally Posted by
Scraggers
Has he been given a run up forward? Genuine question
I have seen him drift up forward after a centre bounce and lead well and kick straight, but I haven't seen him start up forward at a centre bounce.
He absolutely did last year. At the start and at the end of the H&A season. The highlight was the Brisbane game in Ballarat but I don't think he was super impactful aside from that.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 21 v Fremantle at Marvel on Saturday
Originally Posted by
hujsh
He absolutely did last year. At the start and at the end of the H&A season. The highlight was the Brisbane game in Ballarat but I don't think he was super impactful aside from that.
From rounds 1 to 6 last year he kicked 9 goals and then was concussed and didn't play again till like round 11.
Martin would have been first ruck and English the third tall forward.
I think 9 goals from six games as the resting ruckman you would take that every day of the week.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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