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    Quote Originally Posted by Mofra View Post
    By all accounts he didn't exactly keep himself in the best shape during the Covid years. You can't promote a guy if they don't deserve it.
    Sometimes a change of clubs is needed for a player to really knuckle down.
    2020 in the Hub he was out of condition and therefore didn't get games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    We don't know what was said, but he was offered a contract - means Lewis didn't want to be at the Dogs.
    I've discussed this elesewhere. I was told by an ex-player close to Young that Young was told he had a contract in his exit meeting and that it would be sorted following the trade period but he wanted out for more opportunities.

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    My kid and I just re-watched the 2018 Grand Final if we're not all over Willie Rioli I'll spew up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1eyedog View Post
    My kid and I just re-watched the 2018 Grand Final if we're not all over Willie Rioli I'll spew up.
    Love Willie Rioli. Not sure why he would leave WCE/why they would give him up, but he is definitely better than any/all of our current small forwards, and James Rowe who we are reportedly looking at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzadogs View Post
    Love Willie Rioli. Not sure why he would leave WCE/why they would give him up, but he is definitely better than any/all of our current small forwards, and James Rowe who we are reportedly looking at.
    Willie gives 100% effort - get him in
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    Rioli for Vandermeer? Yes please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    2020 in the Hub he was out of condition and therefore didn't get games.
    So was Bruce but he got games

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullies View Post
    So was Bruce but he got games
    Not like Young
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    Re: Trade hypotheticals

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Not like Young
    Don't kid yourself on how ineffective Bruce was in 2020.

    He played 17 games and had 5 or more kicks in only 3 of those games... and went goalless in more than 50% of games played.

    He was a complete bust and I think he only played as many games as he did as he was a ''big name'' recruit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    Don't kid yourself on how ineffective Bruce was in 2020.

    He played 17 games and had 5 or more kicks in only 3 of those games... and went goalless in more than 50% of games played.

    He was a complete bust and I think he only played as many games as he did as he was a ''big name'' recruit.
    No doubt, however, Young was completely unfit and didn't even perform well in the scratch matches, so had no hope in the seniors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    Don't kid yourself on how ineffective Bruce was in 2020.

    He played 17 games and had 5 or more kicks in only 3 of those games... and went goalless in more than 50% of games played.

    He was a complete bust and I think he only played as many games as he did as he was a ''big name'' recruit.
    The lesson is, don't recruit from the Saints. Their culture doesn't seem to be as professional as ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    The lesson is, don't recruit from the Saints. Their culture doesn't seem to be as professional as ours.
    Feels like we have sent a lot more players the Saints way than vice versa over the years.

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    Young played in round 1 of 2020 (was horrendous but he wasn’t alone). I wonder what sort of condition he turned up in after the second break to not be featured at all afterwards. Must’ve been pretty bad given the noticeable extra weight some others were carrying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Days View Post
    Young played in round 1 of 2020 (was horrendous but he wasn’t alone). I wonder what sort of condition he turned up in after the second break to not be featured at all afterwards. Must’ve been pretty bad given the noticeable extra weight some others were carrying.
    Young played in the forward pocket and the ball rarely entered the forward line. Bruce was CHF and Naughton FF. The dogs kicked 1 goal in the second half, making a total of 5 for the game.

    Grundy played close to a career best performance, destroying English. As the AFL website reports:

    Brodie Grundy started 2020 as he ended 2019 with an outstanding performance to set up Collingwood's win tonight. 37 hitouts, including 12 to-advantage, a game-high nine score involvements from 19 disposals is a great way to start the new season.

    Young was irrelevant. But dropped for the season? (Naughton had 2 disposals)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danjul View Post
    Young played in the forward pocket and the ball rarely entered the forward line. Bruce was CHF and Naughton FF. The dogs kicked 1 goal in the second half, making a total of 5 for the game.

    Grundy played close to a career best performance, destroying English. As the AFL website reports:

    Brodie Grundy started 2020 as he ended 2019 with an outstanding performance to set up Collingwood's win tonight. 37 hitouts, including 12 to-advantage, a game-high nine score involvements from 19 disposals is a great way to start the new season.

    Young was irrelevant. But dropped for the season? (Naughton had 2 disposals)
    Yeah at the time I definitely thought it was curious. That game was actually about as low as the football world has ever seemed to me, what with the impending doom of what was to follow.

    Maybe Young didn’t even go to the hub. Not like the club made any effort to keep us updated save for 3 hours once a weekend at that time.
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