One way traffic

[jeemak]

Were they? We had the week off before the GF last year and similarly had the week off before the EF this year. On both occasons we didn't look the slightest bit fatigued immediately before the opposition onslaught began - Melbourne didn't even look like scoring before the floodgates opened in the 2021 GF and neither did Freo on the weekend until mid 2nd qtr.

This is 100% a structure/personnel/tactical issue, and it is now clearly also a mental issue. I'm not giving the club an out based on fatigue - if fatigue was an issue last year it would have been against Brisbane SF or Port PF, but we ran both those games out as well as our opponents. We erred badly not reviewing the GF 12 months ago, and in this game if you aren't prepared to learn lessons you get what you deserve. I hope we take due care to learn the lessons this off-season, and the words are enouraging around already discussing how we can get better post-game and also confirming a proper review of all operations will be conducted.

Melbourne clearly went up a gear and we couldn't cover it, and that's not just in the centre which to me is actually the easiest part to cover if fatigued (and we failed due to a lack of awareness/ system/ accountability - you name it). Additionally, our poor start to the game meant that we had to spend a lot of chips to get the ascendency that we did.

All that aside, if you're going to put a plan in place to make sure the mistakes aren't repeated and that plan doesn't involve subjecting the players to the trauma of it, then you need to get it right and you need to invoke change from that plan. We clearly didn't do that, and I think it's the executional and training elements we need to focus on this time around because ultimately that's what's failed us.

[jeemak]

Great thread Topdog and awesome responses here. Peak WOOF.

[Mantis]

I understand the logic behind the comparison, but you don't make the employees involved in the fatal accident watch the accident to learn from it, right?

And I get that we're talking about a game of footy, and not a work place fatality etc., but I have very little doubt that the fatigue physically and mentally after the final five weeks of our season last year would have been substantial and the decision to avoid the players watching the game would have been a considered one.

Whether that's right or wrong I don't know, but again, I don't think it would have been a decision made lightly.

You don’t have to watch vision of the incident (if it exists) as businesses aren’t *!*!*!*!ing sadistic, but there is always photos of the scene and some sort of re-creation of the event to assist with the investigation.

And it may not mean a full game review, maybe just key points or passages of play, but at least don’t sweep it under the carpet… Bevo says the GF may have resulted in some mental scars which haven’t healed.. how would they know if they didn’t discuss it?

[Topdog]

Hello darkness my old friend

[JanLorMill]

Hello darkness my old friend

Yes and this one
https://youtu.be/JWnUItw1ElU

[azabob]

***bump*** of the worst kind.

[Bulldog4life]

It's been bugging me for a while our inability to stop other teams runs but never really saw it mentioned by the media. Decided today to look into it and the results shocked even me. Really tried to limit this to teams scoring 4+ goals without us kicking one but included some 5+ goals to 1. This season that occurred 19 times with 2 other shocking runs included. I'm also pretending the GF didnt happen last year.

Round 1 - Melbourne - 27 point run (29-2), 38 point run (40-2) and 24 point run (24-0)
Round 2 - Carlton - 30 point run (37-7)
Round 3 - Sydney - none
Round 4 - Richmond - 23 point run (31-8) & 42 point run (47-5)
Round 5 - North Melbourn - 32 point run (32-0)
Round 6 - Adelaide - none
Round 7 - Essendon - none
Round 8 - Port Adelaide - 24 point run (24-0)
Round 9 - Collingwood - none
Round 10 - Gold Coast - none but outscored 39-14 at one point
Round 11 - West Coast - none
Round 12 - Geelong - 34 point run (38-4)
Round 14 - GWS - none
Round 15 - Hawthorn - 23 point run (30-7)
Round 16 - Brisbane - 57 point run (77-20) OR 39 (44-5)
Round 17 - Sydney - 34 point run (41-7) and 28 point run (40-12)
Round 18 - St Kilda - 28 point run (29-1)
Round 19 - Melbourne - 30 point run (30-0) and 24 point run (24-0)
Round 20 - Geelong - 3rd qtr, 47 point loss (50-3)
Round 21 - Fremantle - 32 point run (39-7)
Round 22 - GWS - none
Round 23 - Hawthorn - 25 point run (25-0)
EF - Fremantle - 54 point turnaround (72-18)

Lack of on field leadership? No plan B? I dont know but something is seriously wrong in the kennel.

We bloody won

[MrMahatma]

We bloody won

And we bloody gave up 8 on the trot!

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

***bump*** of the worst kind.

That is just as a sickening list.

[Eastdog]

Just happy to have wrestled back the lead and won. Still is an issue when the momentum is against us after a great start.