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Re: Liam Jones
I’m all for it. At worst, it’s a spot we don’t draft at the back end, at best he’s a capable defender who fills our #2 KPD spot with aplomb and gets us back in the top 4 mix.
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Re: Liam Jones
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
Ha ha, now that's funny.
But I can't work out which way you want to go. Your original comment implied you didn't want him but this one does.
Nah, we need to recruit younger players. We are starting to fall into the top-up trap. I know we got into the grand final last season but I feel we need to build a bit to get another tilt.
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Re: Liam Jones
Will easily be our best key defender next season.
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Re: Liam Jones
Originally Posted by
F'scary
Nah, we need to recruit younger players. We are starting to fall into the top-up trap. I know we got into the grand final last season but I feel we need to build a bit to get another tilt.
We do need some tall young developing backman, but in the meantime, as they develop Jones can add something to our defence.
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Re: Liam Jones
Originally Posted by
F'scary
Nah, we need to recruit younger players. We are starting to fall into the top-up trap. I know we got into the grand final last season but I feel we need to build a bit to get another tilt.
Yes agree in part, I don't think we are immune to damage in this sense like other clubs and hopefully Grant and co are smart enough to put the right protections in place.
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Re: Liam Jones
I’m fine with adding Jones - it’s a real credit to him how he turned his career into a success with Carlton
Provided he’s motivated to be in shape I can see him being good for us - he became a good intercept mark
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Re: Liam Jones
Originally Posted by
F'scary
Nah, we need to recruit younger players. We are starting to fall into the top-up trap. I know we got into the grand final last season but I feel we need to build a bit to get another tilt.
We have not topped up at any stage in our recent history so I'm not sure how we are falling into a top up trap? We have continued to draft young players, along with some older recruits given we are in finals contention. We haven't actually done anything yet this offseason so still too early to judge.
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Re: Liam Jones
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
We have not topped up at any stage in our recent history so I'm not sure how we are falling into a top up trap? We have continued to draft young players, along with some older recruits given we are in finals contention. We haven't actually done anything yet this offseason so still too early to judge.
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Re: Liam Jones
Originally Posted by
Mofra
Keath & Bruce & Crozier & Martin & Hannan & Schache...
Over how many years? Adding a player here and there, plus young players is smart.
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Re: Liam Jones
Originally Posted by
Mofra
Keath & Bruce & Crozier & Martin & Hannan & Schache...
Every club unless they are in full rebuild mode recruits established players. To me topping up is tipping the balance that way at the expense of going to the draft. We have continued to go to the draft (and through good fortune have brought in some top end talent recently). I clearly acknowledged we had brought in some older players as well so not sure what point you are trying to make anyway?
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Re: Liam Jones
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
Every club unless they are in full rebuild mode recruits established players. To me topping up is tipping the balance that way at the expense of going to the draft. We have continued to go to the draft (and through good fortune have brought in some top end talent recently). I clearly acknowledged we had brought in some older players as well so not sure what point you are trying to make anyway?
I was just noting a few players we've added during the years while still holding onto first rounders.
Had no idea you'd be so defensive.
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Re: Liam Jones
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Over how many years? Adding a player here and there, plus young players is smart.
Exactly. We can add players and still hit the draft. I don't think we're anywhere near a Hawthorn style 'delay the inevitable' trade strategy, especially given the absolute free kicks we've been handed the last two years (Marra and Darcy) and possibly next year if reports on Jordan Croft are accurate.
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Re: Liam Jones
Originally Posted by
Mofra
Exactly. We can add players and still hit the draft. I don't think we're anywhere near a Hawthorn style 'delay the inevitable' trade strategy, especially given the absolute free kicks we've been handed the last two years (Marra and Darcy) and possibly next year if reports on Jordan Croft are accurate.
We've been pretty balanced along the journey and have just about always maintained 1st round picks will bringing in experienced players from over clubs from time to time. Over the last couple of years given our NGA and father son picks we have focused a bit more on players from the state leagues with mixed results in adding some experienced types.
Mixed results from that effort but that would be expected.
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Re: Liam Jones
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
We've been pretty balanced along the journey and have just about always maintained 1st round picks will bringing in experienced players from over clubs from time to time. Over the last couple of years given our NGA and father son picks we have focused a bit more on players from the state leagues with mixed results in adding some experienced types.
Mixed results from that effort but that would be expected.
I don't mind giving some state leaguers a chance - McNeill played SANFL and I still think he'll develop nicely. The Big O will lead Brisbane's ruck division this weekend after being plucked from the VFL.
I do wish we'd target 'needs' a little more with late speculative picks but that's a topic for a different thread.
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Re: Liam Jones
Originally Posted by
Mofra
I was just noting a few players we've added during the years while still holding onto first rounders.
Had no idea you'd be so defensive.
Sorry but the way you just listed players came across as you refuting my point rather than adding to it.