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Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy
Chasing Grundy is crazy talk. Our window isn’t open and Grundy would cost picks and a heap of cash.
We need youth, at least five draftees every year for the next three years.
-Speed and skill in the midfield first priority.
-developing KPD x2
-live wire small forward.
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Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy
Originally Posted by
Hot_Doggies
Chasing Grundy is crazy talk. Our window isn’t open and Grundy would cost picks and a heap of cash.
We need youth, at least five draftees every year for the next three years.
-Speed and skill in the midfield first priority.
-developing KPD x2
-live wire small forward.
I'm curious. What is it about the team that made the GF last year, and finals this year, makes you think our window isn't open?
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Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy
Originally Posted by
MrMahatma
I'm curious. What is it about the team that made the GF last year, and finals this year, makes you think our window isn't open?
I'm cutting in on their answer, but I would say one word: trajectory.
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Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy
Originally Posted by
F'scary
I'm cutting in on their answer, but I would say one word: trajectory.
Melbourne had a shocker in 2019 and were average in 2020, turned out to be a blip. Collingwood had a down year last year and have bounced straight back up. Trajectories often aren't linear.
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Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
Melbourne had a shocker in 2019 and were average in 2020, turned out to be a blip. Collingwood had a down year last year and have bounced straight back up. Trajectories often aren't linear.
I'd say trajectories are NEVER linear.
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Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
Melbourne had a shocker in 2019 and were average in 2020, turned out to be a blip. Collingwood had a down year last year and have bounced straight back up. Trajectories often aren't linear.
Was it a blip?
They were good in a fake season for mine.
This year a real season again left wanting.
Remember they played that last game in 2021 at Geelong with 0 fans.
You can not seriously say it's a fair season.
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Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Was it a blip?
They were good in a fake season for mine.
This year a real season again left wanting.
Remember they played that last game in 2021 at Geelong with 0 fans.
You can not seriously say it's a fair season.
Melbourne should also be having a review on where things went wrong. One more final than us and bundled out as well.
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Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Melbourne should also be having a review on where things went wrong. One more final than us and bundled out as well.
They had a good season though particularly early. They got going but fell away.
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Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Was it a blip?
They were good in a fake season for mine.
This year a real season again left wanting.
Remember they played that last game in 2021 at Geelong with 0 fans.
You can not seriously say it's a fair season.
That pretty much misses my point entirely.
They made a prelim in 2018 and were awful the next year - that's a downward trajectory. They then improved a little in 2020 and were excellent in 2021, fake season or not.
All I'm saying is just because our performance this season fell away it doesn't mean it will continue to fall away in 2023. Doesn't mean it won't either, but teams rarely rise or fall in straight lines.
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Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
That pretty much misses my point entirely.
They made a prelim in 2018 and were awful the next year - that's a downward trajectory. They then improved a little in 2020 and were excellent in 2021, fake season or not.
All I'm saying is just because our performance this season fell away it doesn't mean it will continue to fall away in 2023. Doesn't mean it won't either, but teams rarely rise or fall in straight lines.
Relax.
2017 how did they go?
You can pick and choose all you like I would say without Jackson who was one of the big drivers of success and taking into account their history you can predict their future.
Not sure what I'm missing. Maybe explain it like I'm not from the big city
Our form has nothing to do with theirs and you need to at least show our history since 2015.
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Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
That pretty much misses my point entirely.
They made a prelim in 2018 and were awful the next year - that's a downward trajectory. They then improved a little in 2020 and were excellent in 2021, fake season or not.
All I'm saying is just because our performance this season fell away it doesn't mean it will continue to fall away in 2023. Doesn't mean it won't either, but teams rarely rise or fall in straight lines.
We all hope you are correct.
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Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy
Come on down, Lobb too difficult to get
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Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Come on down, Lobb too difficult to get
Sounding that way but it all depends what they need for Jackson
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Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy
I still maintain (that while we won’t get his signature) we should be tabling an offer to Grundy. If we can run interference here, Melbourne would likely make the deal two firsts and Lobb. So they have to trade Lobb. Once Lobb is on the table, in the discussions, then we can get to where he goes to and for what.
Both look to be second rounders plus another later pick. I could live with either. But sitting around waiting for other clubs to make decisions while we are passive makes little sense. If we can disrupt things just enough, that we could endanger the Jackson trade (pursuing Grundy, necessitating Lobb to Dees), it makes sense for Freo to cut the bullshit get fair fair value for Lobb and get Jackson relatively smoothly.
I’m hoping we are far more active in the background than just waiting on Brisbane, being stonewalled by Freo and awaiting Hunter, Cordy and others desired destinations to see how we respond. There seems to be some gettable decent players out there, for which we will have picks and cash to deal. Now is the perfect time to be bold.
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Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
I still maintain (that while we won’t get his signature) we should be tabling an offer to Grundy. If we can run interference here, Melbourne would likely make the deal two firsts and Lobb. So they have to trade Lobb. Once Lobb is on the table, in the discussions, then we can get to where he goes to and for what.
This is all becoming too easy for Melbourne.
Grundy is also willing to take a reduced salary...
So to recap; Melbourne get Grundy for a top 25 pick, Collingwood to pick up some of his salary and now Grundy willing to take a pay cut.
FMD; Melbourne are savvy off field.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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