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Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:
Decent (or well known player) trades out by GCS and GWS to existing clubs (not the full exhaustive list and not pick trades):
Richmond: Morris, Townsend, Prestia, Tom Lynch, Taranto, Hopper*
Geelong: Josh Caddy, Zac Smith, Gary Ablett, Jeremy Cameron, Bruhn, Bowes (with pick 7)
Collingwood: Andrew Krakouer, Ceglar, Jamie Elliott, Adam Treloar, Hoskin-Elliott, Bobby Hill, Adams
Fremantle: Mzungu, Bennell, Cam McCarthy, Nathan Wilson, Brandon Matera, Rory Lobb, Will Brodie, Corbett
Hawthorn: O'Rourke, O'Meara, Scrimshaw, Patton, Scully
St Kilda: Saad, Tom Lee, Tom Hickey, Josh Bruce, Jack Steele
Port Adelaide: Hombsch, Neade, Charlie Dixon, Finlayson
Melbourne: Dom Tyson, Sam Frost, Tom Bugg, May, K Kolo, Tomlinson
Essendon: Stewart, Devon Smith, Shiel, Saad, Peter Wright, Caldwell
Adelaide: Luke Brown, Hampton, Rankine
Carlton: Jaksch, Lamb, Phillips, Plowman, Sumner, Marchbank, Palmer, Jarrod Pickett, Matt Kennedy, Setterfield, Zac Williams
North: Ahern, Aaron Hall, Bonar, Corr
Brisbane: Lyons, Callum Ah Chee, Zorko
West Coast: Langdon
Western Bulldogs: Tom Boyd (retalitory strike for Griffen walking out as captain)
GCS: N/A
GWS: N/A
* (Sam Darley and his 7 games don't count)
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Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:
It hasn't really helped Carlton
Richmond a huge beneficiary.
The Dogs now have Treloar.
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Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:
Originally Posted by
angelopetraglia
It hasn't really helped Carlton
Richmond a huge beneficiary.
The Dogs now have Treloar.
And Bruce. It’s seems quirky that we are the easily lowest volume trader with them. If not for Griffen, there’s no Boyd either. I can’t quite understand why.
The bigger clubs have done really well. Yah for strong clubs getting stronger.
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Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:
It is actually a pretty underwhelming list to be honest.
I’m quite surprised by it.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:
Originally Posted by
azabob
It is actually a pretty underwhelming list to be honest.
I’m quite surprised by it.
B: Mzungu May Bruce (was KPD then) / Tomlinson with good knees
HB: Wilson Marchbank Saad
C: Taranto Treloar Shiel
HF: Zorko Cameron Jamie Elliott
F: Rankine Tom Lynch Dixon
R: Lobb O’Meara Prestia
I: Adams Ablett Tom Boyd Hopper
E: Caddy Hopper Bruce/Tomlinson Hickey
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Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
B: Mzungu May Bruce (was KPD then)
HB: Wilson Marchbank Saad
C: Taranto Treloar Caddy
HF: Zorko Tom Boyd Jamie Elliott
F: Rankine Tom Lynch Cameron
R: Zac Smith O’Meara Prestia
I: Hopper Lobb Dixon Ablett Shiel
Ah, I see the issue. Collingwood got Taylor Adams from GWS not Jamie Elliot.
In all seriousness considering the number of high draft picks I expected the 22 to be stronger.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:
Originally Posted by
azabob
Ah, I see the issue. Collingwood got Taylor Adams from GWS not Jamie Elliot.
In all seriousness considering the number of high draft picks I expected the 22 to be stronger.
Elliott was actually pre-listed and traded. I will add in Adams.
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Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:
Richmond have done very well this trade period to bolster their midfield. On top of Taranto and Hopper they have Prestia, Dusty and Bolton.
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Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:
Richmond, Geelong, Melbourne, Essendon & Collingwood have done well
Carlton not so much, they got it in their heads that even the picks GWS reject must still be good given their high pick riches, but its the clubs that have poached established players that have done best
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Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Richmond have done very well this trade period to bolster their midfield. On top of Taranto and Hopper they have Prestia, Dusty and Bolton.
No quality draft picks as a consequence.
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Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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Just noticed the Sam Darley mention at the top. I was excited when we got him because of how his kicking was spoken about on that other forum next door. He might have just about been pound for pound (leaving out like those Fijian guys or whatever) the worst kick we’ve ever had.
Apparently he’s a top 10 player in the world at NBA 2K though. I guess everyone really does have that one special thing.
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Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:
Originally Posted by
Twodogs
Add Lobb to the list.
If you want to count indirect moves to us from GWS (through Aints, Pies & Freo), and between the two clubs:
GWS - Dogs
Ward - Tom Boyd
Griffen - Lobb
Reid - Bruce
Addison - Treloar
(List vacancy - Darley)
Marchbank - Macrae (Pick 6 with Griffen - compo pick for Ward) (Marchbank pick used on Deledio)
- Prudden (compo pick for Reid)
GWS from Collingwood:
Taranto & Kennedy (both trades out, picks 12 & 19 and pick used on Sam Taylor)
GWS from Freo:
Hately (quit to PSD), O’Halloran
GWS from Aints:
Passed on using the pick they got
From 2011 - Between the clubs activities directly and indirectly:
Now Dogs: Macrae, Lobb, Treloar, Bruce (Prelim win in 2016 and Premiership) (GF loss)
Now GWS: Ward, Taylor, O’Halloran, Pick 12 & 19 this year (2016 Prelim loss) (GF loss)
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Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:
That's a decent list of players we've got around and about from GWS.
I wonder how it is that we haven't managed to convince anyone to move from the Gold coast to sunny Footscray?
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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We won a flag partly due to expansion. So I reckon we're winners.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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