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21-10-2022, 05:20 PM
#121
Re: LOL Aints
Originally Posted by
bornadog
The structure was already there under Macca, it just that he wasn't a senior coach.
You may have noticed we didn't really change the assistant coaches in the first few years of Bevo. We lost Montgomery because he was too political, but most of the old Geelong boys stayed as did some of the others. The administration was also good, lead by Peter. So Bevo waltzed in and pulled the footy department together to create his team.
So did we have a fairly steady club when Bevo took the reigns and in essence it was purely poor onfield performance and coaching when McCartney was in charge? I honestly can't remember.
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21-10-2022, 05:29 PM
#122
Re: LOL Aints
Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
So did we have a fairly steady club when Bevo took the reigns and in essence it was purely poor onfield performance and coaching when McCartney was in charge? I honestly can't remember.
In my opinion yes. Ok we lost captain and coach, but everything else was in place.
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21-10-2022, 06:39 PM
#123
Re: LOL Aints
Originally Posted by
bornadog
In my opinion yes. Ok we lost captain and coach, but everything else was in place.
We lost a couple of prima donna players as well, which didn't hurt.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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21-10-2022, 07:56 PM
#124
Re: LOL Aints
Originally Posted by
Twodogs
Drop them off at the Yarraville nets and we'll get the crew together.
Robert Walls as the referee?
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21-10-2022, 10:51 PM
#125
Re: LOL Aints
Originally Posted by
Sedat
City Hall operates exactly like a mediocre, bloated, inefficient government beurocracy, and is the breeding ground for talentless people who would not last one day in real private enterprise. It should be no surprise whatsoever that Lethers is just the latest in the long line of talentless grifters that made their initial name at AFL HQ.
A simple rule of thumb for our HR dept is to never hire anyone with AFL HQ experience.
There are few things I love more on this board than a solid Sedat rant.
I want them mainlined into my eyeballs.
"It's over. It's all over."
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23-10-2022, 02:19 PM
#126
Re: LOL Aints
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
There are few things I love more on this board than a solid Sedat rant.
I want them mainlined into my eyeballs.
Aside from the premise that mediocre people can’t thrive in private companies, he makes many good points.
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23-10-2022, 02:50 PM
#127
Re: LOL Aints
Originally Posted by
The Underdog
Aside from the premise that mediocre people can’t thrive in private companies, he makes many good points.
Yeah it's been my experience mediocre people find a way to thrive in all environments.
"It's over. It's all over."
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23-10-2022, 02:52 PM
#128
Re: LOL Aints
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
Yeah it's been my experience mediocre people find a way to thrive in all environments.
I’ve worked in private enterprise and local government and done ok in both.
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23-10-2022, 03:16 PM
#129
Re: LOL Aints
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
Yeah it's been my experience mediocre people find a way to thrive in all environments.
Woah look at that it’s me.
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23-10-2022, 03:27 PM
#130
Re: LOL Aints
I was looking for something else entirely, but stumbled across this instead. Food for thought Aints...
https://freakonomics.com/2012/12/is-...ly-the-answer/
Essentially, coaches appear to receive similar training, face similar information sets, and ultimately make similar decisions. The results – perhaps not surprising when you consider these similarities – are that outcomes with different coaches are quite similar.
And that means, if it costs a small fortune to fire your coach – and often it does – then a team is probably better off just keeping who they have on the sideline. Yes, this may not make the fans of the losers very happy today. But it doesn’t make sense for universities to make decisions that cost the school money and don’t systematically change the outcomes we see on the field.
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Good luck, for your sake I hope heaven and hell are really there, but I wouldn't hold my breath
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23-10-2022, 03:39 PM
#131
Re: LOL Aints
Originally Posted by
The Underdog
I’ve worked in private enterprise and local government and done ok in both.
Is some going to tell him? I don't want to be the one.
"It's over. It's all over."
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23-10-2022, 03:39 PM
#132
Re: LOL Aints
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Woah look at that it’s me.
No you're beautiful. A shining star.
"It's over. It's all over."
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23-10-2022, 04:13 PM
#133
Re: LOL Aints
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Woah look at that it’s me.
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23-10-2022, 04:28 PM
#134
Re: LOL Aints
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
Is some going to tell him? I don't want to be the one.
Dare to be average, my friend, dare to be average.
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23-10-2022, 04:52 PM
#135
Re: LOL Aints
Originally Posted by
Daughter of the West
So...this isn't wrong.
Most coaches are pretty competent at TEACHING one of two things:
1/. Skill fundamentals.
2/. Match day structures.
The game-style to tie the two together you will see a fair bit of variance in the way individuals going about the teaching process - some players flourish or flounder based on how they click with the game-style teaching of their coach...let's face it, trust is primarily built at training and if you can't do it on the track, well, you wont get the chance to do it in a game.
All of that said:
- Whether your focus is teaching skills/skill ex or structures, those coaches who 'make a difference' are those who are able to bring a unique element of play to their side. Easy examples right now are McRae's 'roll the dice' kick through the corridor attacking system that Collingwood used this season. Buckley is a good coach and got Collingwood within a goal of a premiership, HOWEVER McRae brought an attacking system AND won buy-in from the players...hey ho, let's go.
Lyon is one of those coaches. He has a pretty unique defensive system and the Saints just became really (really) hard to score against. Will they play exciting footy? Probs not. But they will keep the oppo to 8 goals, be in it every week and win more than they lose. The 'Stand' rule is going to cause him some issues - hell, the "back to the 9m" rule will cause him some issues, but he has a defensive plan and knows how to teach it. If you believe the stories, he taught the 05/06 Swans to defend as well so he's got a LOT of experience in doing it...they will be hard to score against which makes them immediately harder to beat.
What should I tell her? She's going to ask.
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