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Re: AFL next CEO
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
As a raging socialist, yes.
That's bullshit and below you and that's all I'm going to say about it.
Nets, of course.
I just don't get generalisations. Everyone is different and has their own story. We should be celebrating them not bringing them down because they've accomplished something.
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Re: AFL next CEO
I don’t think it’s arguable that she’s been a poor advocate for the club. Not everyone has to be Eddie McGuire standing outside a big top with a megaphone and a top hat but she’s been virtually anonymous outside of end of season stuff that only members watch or read anyway.
It really does feel like we’ve been used as a resume builder, which stings coming from a position we’ve seen previously be filled by only the most passionate of Bulldog people.
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Re: AFL next CEO
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
I don’t think it’s arguable that she’s been a poor advocate for the club. Not everyone has to be Eddie McGuire standing outside a big top with a megaphone and a top hat but she’s been virtually anonymous outside of end of season stuff that only members watch or read anyway.
It really does feel like we’ve been used as a resume builder, which stings coming from a position we’ve seen previously be filled by only the most passionate of Bulldog people.
I actually think she's done very well but as members and shareholders we should be seeing and hearing more from her. She makes an exceptionally great impression when she talks at events and it's why most of us would like to see her more.
Gil's style is very different and if she was to be successful it will be interesting to see how she goes about it.
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Re: AFL next CEO
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
I don?t think it?s arguable that she?s been a poor advocate for the club. Not everyone has to be Eddie McGuire standing outside a big top with a megaphone and a top hat but she?s been virtually anonymous outside of end of season stuff that only members watch or read anyway.
It really does feel like we?ve been used as a resume builder, which stings coming from a position we?ve seen previously be filled by only the most passionate of Bulldog people.
Perhaps the blueprint of an AFL club president has swung away from the extroverted Media types, McGuire, Brayshaw, Koch to a quieter, behind the scenes model. Off the top of my head, I can't name another club president. The club seems to be pretty well run, regular budgeted surplus, no off field scandals.
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Re: AFL next CEO
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
I just don't get generalisations. Everyone is different and has their own story. We should be celebrating them not bringing them down because they've accomplished something.
That's a bit of a generalisation, don't you think?
I can understand the assumptions people make about KWW to an extent, and it's largely because we've not seen enough of her across myriad opportunities to vocally advocate for the club. I have no doubt she is a good Bulldogs person, she wouldn't have had the support she's had if she wasn't.
It's a difficult role the one of president. You have to bring your own style but at the same time appeal to the tribal nature of the membership and fan base whilst advocating for the club at a business/ corporate level. Not everyone is going to get that balance right, though I'd be interested if she's received this type of feedback and chosen to address it or ignore it.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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Re: AFL next CEO
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
I don’t think it’s arguable that she’s been a poor advocate for the club. Not everyone has to be Eddie McGuire standing outside a big top with a megaphone and a top hat but she’s been virtually anonymous outside of end of season stuff that only members watch or read anyway.
It really does feel like we’ve been used as a resume builder, which stings coming from a position we’ve seen previously be filled by only the most passionate of Bulldog people.
This is a good post HD. She is a victim of her predecessors.
I certainly have that same feeling, that she isn't visible enough however then I ask myself is she any different to Peggy O'Neal at the Demons or Roffey at the Tigers and the comparison is maybe less stark.
What do people want to see more of is probably a good question to ask?
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Re: AFL next CEO
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Did she actually start all this or was it already in the works when she took over? I wonder if she lands the AFL CEO role will she actually see it through?
Perhaps I don't quite rate these largely funded projects at footy clubs that highly but I'd rather get an idea of the more day to day type fixes that have been implemented.
I did say see it through, ie make sure it happens. Make no mistake, overseeing a project like that is huge.
Day to day stuff is up to the CEO
Originally Posted by
D Mitchell
Perhaps the blueprint of an AFL club president has swung away from the extroverted Media types, McGuire, Brayshaw, Koch to a quieter, behind the scenes model. Off the top of my head, I can't name another club president. The club seems to be pretty well run, regular budgeted surplus, no off field scandals.
Spot on D Mitchell.
Maybe in the past we needed an out there President fighting tooth and nail for everything, but these days it is not necessary.
Like you, I couldn't name any other President other than Koch.
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Re: AFL next CEO
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
This is a good post HD. She is a victim of her predecessors.
I certainly have that same feeling, that she isn't visible enough however then I ask myself is she any different to Peggy O'Neal at the Demons or Roffey at the Tigers and the comparison is maybe less stark.
What do people want to see more of is probably a good question to ask?
I just google searched KWW and Good Friday. I didn't see any commentary about us losing the fixture. That's something to my mind the president should be passionate and vocal about, in lieu of us wanting to build a yearly event with North and the Royal Children's. That's just one example.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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Re: AFL next CEO
Originally Posted by
jeemak
I just google searched KWW and Good Friday. I didn't see any commentary about us losing the fixture. That's something to my mind the president should be passionate and vocal about, in lieu of us wanting to build a yearly event with North and the Royal Children's. That's just one example.
That was left to Ameet to complain about. see here
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Re: AFL next CEO
Originally Posted by
bornadog
That was left to Ameet to complain about. see
here
That's the entire point.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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Re: AFL next CEO
Originally Posted by
jeemak
That's the entire point.
For me that is the CEO's job.
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Re: AFL next CEO
Originally Posted by
jeemak
That's a bit of a generalisation, don't you think?
I can understand the assumptions people make about KWW to an extent, and it's largely because we've not seen enough of her across myriad opportunities to vocally advocate for the club. I have no doubt she is a good Bulldogs person, she wouldn't have had the support she's had if she wasn't.
It's a difficult role the one of president. You have to bring your own style but at the same time appeal to the tribal nature of the membership and fan base whilst advocating for the club at a business/ corporate level. Not everyone is going to get that balance right, though I'd be interested if she's received this type of feedback and chosen to address it or ignore it.
This is pretty spot on Jee to the mak.
We don't know how ardently she pushes our causes behind the scenes, so the disconnect with fans/members appears to be that transparency with what she is doing with the club.
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Re: AFL next CEO
Originally Posted by
jeemak
That's the entire point.
I guess if she was being sounded out for the top job she wasn't going to make anything public.
I don't mind her lower profile but for a club so linked with members she needs to be putting out regular updates.
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Re: AFL next CEO
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I guess if she was being sounded out for the top job she wasn't going to make anything public.
I don't mind her lower profile but for a club so linked with members she needs to be putting out regular updates.
I'm not sure they're the words I'd use, but I get your meaning and agree. We need the connection to someone who isn't an employee, but a genuine fan leading the club.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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Re: AFL next CEO
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
I just don't get generalisations. Everyone is different and has their own story. We should be celebrating them not bringing them down because they've accomplished something.
I'm not bringing them down. I'm just not invested or interested in them.
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