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    Can Naughton win the Coleman

    Had a pretty good season even though he seemed to have a bung knee and other ailments.

    Can he go one better in 2023 and win the Coleman?

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    Re: Can Naughton win the Coleman

    Would a better question be:

    IF Aaron Naughton won the Coleman, would that be enough for 'everyone' to stop saying he needs to go back to defence?
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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    Re: Can Naughton win the Coleman

    Unfortunately, I don't think this is dependant on Naughts. There are too many variables in this outcome; the feed he gets from the centre square (laces-out or bombed in the forward 50), and the interaction between Naughts and the other forwards. Whilst the addition of Lobb to the forward line will benefit Naughton, he is still going to attract the best backman from every opposition club.

    If Aaron can deal with the extra attention and get better feed from our mids ... then yes, he can.
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    Re: Can Naughton win the Coleman

    I am not particularly concerned with him winning the Coleman.

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    Re: Can Naughton win the Coleman

    If he can improve his goal kicking accuracy to around 66%, I think he will get closer. In 2022, he 51 goals from 85 scoring shots, which is only 60%.
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    Re: Can Naughton win the Coleman

    Naughton would be better suited at CHF, IMO, where he isn’t so constrained in the goal front.
    We now have other options closer to goal, with Lobb interchanging with English, Darcy and Marra plus Weightman.
    Poor delivery into our forward line, continues to be a problem.
    The loss of Dunkley, could be helped by moving Daniel into the midfield where his better disposal skills would create better opportunities for our attack.

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    Re: Can Naughton win the Coleman

    He can win the Coleman but as F'scary said he would need to improve his set-shot percentages and I'm not sure we are bringing in a specialist to help him with that.
    I think he would need to score at least 65 goals to have a chance so he would need a lot of things to go right for him.
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    Re: Can Naughton win the Coleman

    I think he COULD, but he probably won't and it has nothing to do with talent.

    More than most other key forwards, he plays a bloody robust and taxing game. I don't think that can be changed; it's just who he is and why he's so great.

    Some of his main competitors are better at finding easy ball/easy goals (Curnow, McKay, Hawkins, Cameron, Lynch). Sometimes it feels like Naughty does everything the hard way, and is more prone to getting banged up because of it, but it's also why I'd pick him over any other player. His appetite as a competitive beast borders on insanity.

    Different players but I think of Naughty as our Riewoldt, rather than our Fraser Gehrig. If that makes ANY sense at all. Nick always seemed banged up and nothing seemed easy, but he gave everything and destroyed opponents in a different way.
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    Re: Can Naughton win the Coleman

    These little awards dont mean much but he can win it but probably wont. Remarkable player though and I havent seen marking like what he is capable of.

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    Re: Can Naughton win the Coleman

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasper View Post
    These little awards dont mean much but he can win it but probably wont. Remarkable player though and I havent seen marking like what he is capable of.
    Coleman is not a little award. If you win the Coleman it generally means your team is wining due to the amount of goals you have kicked.
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    Re: Can Naughton win the Coleman

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Coleman is not a little award. If you win the Coleman it generally means your team is wining due to the amount of goals you have kicked.
    I get that it generally does but Curnow and McKay have won it over the last two seasons. Carlton haven't made the 8 although they should have this year.

    It's a nice to win award but a spread of goal kickers across 3 or more forwards is a better outcome for a team.

    How do we squeeze an extra 5 to 10 goals out of Naughton is the challenge and that might need to happen from the midfield delivery.
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    Re: Can Naughton win the Coleman

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bulldogs Bite View Post
    I think he COULD, but he probably won't and it has nothing to do with talent.

    More than most other key forwards, he plays a bloody robust and taxing game. I don't think that can be changed; it's just who he is and why he's so great.

    Some of his main competitors are better at finding easy ball/easy goals (Curnow, McKay, Hawkins, Cameron, Lynch). Sometimes it feels like Naughty does everything the hard way, and is more prone to getting banged up because of it, but it's also why I'd pick him over any other player. His appetite as a competitive beast borders on insanity.

    Different players but I think of Naughty as our Riewoldt, rather than our Fraser Gehrig. If that makes ANY sense at all. Nick always seemed banged up and nothing seemed easy, but he gave everything and destroyed opponents in a different way.
    I wish the comparison extended to free kicks. Riewoldt got a rails run his entire career and Naughts has to be borderline assaulted to get the attention of the umpires.
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    Re: Can Naughton win the Coleman

    Quote Originally Posted by F'scary View Post
    If he can improve his goal kicking accuracy to around 66%, I think he will get closer. In 2022, he 51 goals from 85 scoring shots, which is only 60%.
    He kicked 51.34 from 97 shots at 52.6%. That is pretty much in line with most other leading key forwards in the league other than Tom Lynch:

    Hawkins 67.43 125 53.6%
    Cameron 65.37 117 55.6%
    Curnow 64.42 117 54.7%
    Lynch 63.27 99 63.6%
    McKay 45.31 87 51.7%

    So he could either improve his accuracy (probably unlikely) or take more shots like most of the others do to achieve a higher goal tally.

    Note: finals games included in the above figures.

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    Re: Can Naughton win the Coleman

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bulldogs Bite View Post
    I think he COULD, but he probably won't and it has nothing to do with talent.

    More than most other key forwards, he plays a bloody robust and taxing game. I don't think that can be changed; it's just who he is and why he's so great.

    Some of his main competitors are better at finding easy ball/easy goals (Curnow, McKay, Hawkins, Cameron, Lynch). Sometimes it feels like Naughty does everything the hard way, and is more prone to getting banged up because of it, but it's also why I'd pick him over any other player. His appetite as a competitive beast borders on insanity.

    Different players but I think of Naughty as our Riewoldt, rather than our Fraser Gehrig. If that makes ANY sense at all. Nick always seemed banged up and nothing seemed easy, but he gave everything and destroyed opponents in a different way.
    Completely agree. When he's seemingly forced to take a pack mark 3 deep to get a goal I am often left lamenting why he can't just get the odd simple lead out, chest mark, kick a goal Jason Dunstall style.

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